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Fan at full speed during shut down and sleep


dooky

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#1
Hello all,

I recently purchased a new desktop and it came with Win8 installed on it. Everything worked fine for the first two weeks. Then, I noticed my fan was running at full speed when I'd come into the room after a while. My desktop was in sleep mode, so I was like, WTF...? Woke my desktop up and the fan returned to normal. Strange I thought, maybe it was just a one time thing. Nope... Every time my computer goes into sleep mode, the fan kicks on full blast. Okay... maybe no sleep mode, but the fan will shut off when I shut down my computer, right? Nope again. When my computer is shut down, the fan is still running at full speed. The thing is, when my computer is in sleep mode or shut down, the fan runs at full speed, but when I'm using it (like now) the fan is normal.

I've been looking around trying to find something related to my problem. I've came across a few articles on the forums, like http://www.eightforums.com/performa...still-running-after-shutdown-windows-8-a.html. Seems like my same problem, but it was during his install he shut down Windows. However, there was talk of this "bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes", but I don't really want to mess with the my boot.ini files... I'm not bad at small programs, but I really don't want to toy around and destroy my desktop right now.

I've read some other articles about a Win8 laptop in idle mode with the same problem, and they said it was antivirus related. I figured that if that were the case, shouldn't have I seen it during the first time I booted up my desktop?

Finally, I may be crazy here, but I think I started noticing this problem AFTER I installed some windows updates from Microsoft... I don't know if there is a way to verify that everything went smoothly, I kinda assumed and left my computer running while it was updating...

So all that being said, can someone please point me in the right direction so I can get this problem fixed? It is just super annoying and I'm a bit salty that I have to baby sit my desktop so the fan doesn't sound like a jet taking off...
 

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    Windows 8
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    HP Envy
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    AMD FX 6200 6 core processor
    Memory
    10 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7570

Brooklyn567

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#2
Many things can cause this such as system maintenance when idle, have you noticed the harddrive accessing constantly when the fan speed is high?

Could be disk defrag, windows update installing, anti-virus scan when idle...

If its a scheduled task, go to your start screen and start typing task, click on task scheduler and see whats been tasked.
You can check from past 2 hours, 24hrs, days, etc.....
 

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    Windows 8 & Windows 7 Dual Boot
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    HP G60
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    AMD Turion RM-70 Dual Core 2.0 GHZ
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    3 GB
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Vadikan

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#3

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    Windows 8 Pro x64
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    HP Pavilion dv7t (17.3'', i7-2630QM, HD 6770M 1Gb, 8Gb RAM, 2 [email protected] + 1 [email protected])

dooky

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#4
@Brooklyn,
No, like my computer is completely shut down. There are no lights on, HDD is off, and the fan is still running at full speed. I can see the fan running while sleeping if the computer is running some background action like a disk defrag, but its not.

@Vadikan,
My Maintenance is scheduled for 3:00 AM. I notice this problem with the sleep/shut down fan running when I go to work and come back (8:30AM-6:30PM).

I'm competent but not a wizz with computers, but I think the computer thinks its starting to overheat when in shut down/sleeping, so the fan goes to full speed to cool off the insides. I'm thinking about moving the fan on the motherboard to another port. Maybe that will help?

Thanks for the replies,
Matt
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy
    CPU
    AMD FX 6200 6 core processor
    Memory
    10 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7570

salim96

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#5
decrease your clock(CPU processing rate) in the bios and tell us what happens... :)
 

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    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1
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    custom-build PC
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    INTEL DH55PJ MOTHERBOARD
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XweAponX

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#6
If you got Cool N Quiet on it, you can turn it ON on the BIOS. You didn't mention what kind of system it is - If it's a Gategay? That's a common occurrence. Even with CNQ turned on. The reason why it's turning on full speed, is cos the system is running hot. Is it the system fan or the CPU fan that is running high?
 

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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
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    AMD 4400+/4200+
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    2 GB/3GB
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    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
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    "1842 x 1036"
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    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
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    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

Vadikan

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@Vadikan,
My Maintenance is scheduled for 3:00 AM. I notice this problem with the sleep/shut down fan running when I go to work and come back (8:30AM-6:30PM).

I'm competent but not a wizz with computers, but I think the computer thinks its starting to overheat when in shut down/sleeping, so the fan goes to full speed to cool off the insides. I'm thinking about moving the fan on the motherboard to another port. Maybe that will help?
Matt,

Scheduled ≠ Executed at the scheduled time. If the latter is missed because you PC was off or you were working on it, automatic maintenance (AM) starts the next time your PC goes idle (see the link in my previous post).

The goal is to complete all tasks under the AM umbrella ASAP, therefore they run under the high performance power plan and heavily utilize CPU resources. That's the reason your fan makes some noise to cool off the CPU. It's all perfectly normal.

People are historically concerned about fan noise when they leave the PC unattended :) It was pretty much similar with the previous Microsoft OSs. The difference is that AM in Windows 8 consolidates all maintenance tasks (they have no triggers in the Task Scheduler) under one scheduled task that runs them concurrently at full throttle.

Vadim
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Pavilion dv7t (17.3'', i7-2630QM, HD 6770M 1Gb, 8Gb RAM, 2 [email protected] + 1 [email protected])

XweAponX

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Yah, during Sleep, if you have scheduled a Disk Optimizing session, it will be mroe active. Also, when the system is running a screensaver I think you can set the Optimizer to run. I don't know where those settings are, but I've seen them, maybe in Advanced Power Options.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

dooky

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Decreasing clock speed only slowed me down, still getting the fan noise when shutdown.

To be honest, I don't really know which fan it is. I think its the system fan and not the CPU fan... I'll find out later.

I don't think my computer is overheating, but I have been wrong before... If it is true my computer is going haywire tring to finish the... automatic maintenance...? then i can see that. Is there a way I can set that to a specific time only and then shut down? Like during the night from 4-7 and then no more?

Side note, why would my fan still run if my computer is shut down? I don't see any LED's blink to tell me the HDD is working and i'm getting no output.

Matt
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy
    CPU
    AMD FX 6200 6 core processor
    Memory
    10 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7570

XweAponX

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#10
No, it should be totally shut off, so the system may be in sleep mode. Hit the space key, or shake the mouse. Some Dell systems go into sleep mode and the Power button goes Yellow, and it will not wake. IN a case like that, the fans will be running. You have to hold the power button for 5 secs and then restart it - Usually when Dells start doing this, it means you gotta get a new power supply, cos this happened with my Dell Precision 370 Workstation.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

dooky

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That's what I'm saying. I don't think its a maintenance thing. I tell my computer to shut down every night and I wake up and the fan is running. Sleep it during the work day and come home and the fan is spinning.

Matt
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy
    CPU
    AMD FX 6200 6 core processor
    Memory
    10 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7570

XweAponX

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Then you got something waking the system up, check your Task Manager, see if you have any processes that want to start at certain times of the day. It could be Disk Optimizer, but I'm thinking it's an app that came with the system that loads on startup. Or, you have Wake on Lan turned on, and someone is trying to connect to your system remotely.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

XweAponX

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#13
I'll tell you this little story, I used to use Photoshop 9. It loads a service called LMserver or something. It has to be running, or Photoshop won't load. One day, I went to do some work, and when I came home, there was a brand new printout of the last thing I had ever opened in Photoshop - And I know I had not printed it myself. When I checked Event viewer, it told me that some remote process started LMserver, and it told my system to print that sheet!

So after that, I BLOCKED the process from the net in the firewall, set it for Local Host Only. That never happened again. And I also went back to Photoshop 7 too.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

Vadikan

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#14
Is there a way I can set that to a specific time only and then shut down? Like during the night from 4-7 and then no more?
You can set 4 am as AM time and allow AM to wake up PC from sleep in Control Panel. Then you must put your PC to sleep instead of shutting it down or hibernating.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Pavilion dv7t (17.3'', i7-2630QM, HD 6770M 1Gb, 8Gb RAM, 2 [email protected] + 1 [email protected])

roy

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#15
That's what I'm saying. I don't think its a maintenance thing. I tell my computer to shut down every night and I wake up and the fan is running. Sleep it during the work day and come home and the fan is spinning.

Matt
I think you're right, i do not see any maintenance going on all night long
(unless you are trying to backup a HUGE number of files),
also considering that you have a pretty powered system, the
PC must shut down ultimately, i would factory reset and if
the problem persist bring for warranty repair.

roy
 

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    Windows 8.1 pro Windows 8 pro Windows 7 Home
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    PC/Desktop

dooky

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Is there a way I can check to see what is going on with my computer during a sleep session? I mean like full everything. see whats being run, how much power I'm using, what my CPU is at, temperature of computer itself, and anything else I can think of. I figured that if I can fix the problem while its in sleep mode, I can fix the problem while shut off.

Also, I bought an HP Envy, so I can go around uninstalling all of HP's bloatware

Matt

Matt
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy
    CPU
    AMD FX 6200 6 core processor
    Memory
    10 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7570

XweAponX

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For HP's Bloatware, you should remove it with Yamicsoft's Windows 8 Manager's "Smart Uninstaller" - For instance to get rid of ALL of the wild tangent games, find the HP Game controller, you uninstall that, it should list ALL of the games installed, you will have to check them all off. Unless you want to keep one or two of them. After the uninstaller is finished, it will scan for what's left on the drive and allow you to choose the remaining files. If the uninstaller tells you it wants to reboot to finish, DON'T. Just let the scanner finish, and then remove all the extra gunk it may find.

It's a free 15 day trial
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

ipis50

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#18
This issue probably caused by hardware driver problem.


I have similar problem solved and would like to share. My laptop is TOSHIBA Satellite. After I install the Win 8.1, my computer fan blows at max speed for a few seconds when it is sleeping or shutting down, the situation never happened when I use the Win 7. After many tries and study, I find solution.


I had installed the version 11.5.2.1001 of Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver on Win 8.1. After it is uninstalled, the problem is solved and fan will not blowing fast when computer shutting down. I installed new version 12.8.1.1000 of Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver and the problem never happens again.


So, I guess Win 8.1 is a very new OS and you should update your hardware driver completely. The Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver is a basic optimization tool from INTEL. The older version may conflict with Win8.1. I suggest you to install only necessary drivers for your hardware (large part of hardware is already driven by Win 8.1 itself) and keep drivers the newest version.
 

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    Windows 8.1

AnitaE403

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#19
Have you been able to resolve this? My computer started doing the exact same thing. The fan came on at high speed in the middle of the night and now comes on anytime I turn the computer off? Not sure what I need to do to make it stop other than unplugging the computer completely?
 

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Brooklyn567

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#20
Are you guys certain that youre shutdown, and not hibernated or sleep?
This is crazy, shutdown should be shutdown...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 & Windows 7 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP G60
    CPU
    AMD Turion RM-70 Dual Core 2.0 GHZ
    Memory
    3 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce 8200M G
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Mouse
    MS Intellipoint 5 button (love it!)
    Browser
    Chrome and Chromium
    Antivirus
    Avast Free & Malwarebytes