Eliminate overbearing administrator permission requests?

[Pixel Eater]

In just two days of use, Windows 8 has certainly set a new record for pestering me about administrator permission. I turned UAC all the way down, but can't think of anything else.



Is there anything that basically puts a stop to this? It's like high-fiving oneself over and over with nobody else in the room. Or giving yourself the key to your own city.

 

[netbox]

i tried disabling UAC in windows 8 cp and that fixes it, BUT we cannot run metro apps when u turn-off UAC in windows 8 cp.

 

[davehc]

No real problem. It was irritating. But in the end I reverted to the old Global Administrator" as my only user. Made Things simpler for navigating around!

 

[Pixel Eater]

Well I'm not sure what's going on precisely. It seems like any old folders I brought over, created by my old user account are requiring my own damn permission to copy individual files over, delete them, and so forth. What's the trick to enabling global administrator? Also I just dragged the UAC bar down to the bottom. Is there a way to completely disable it, and I wonder if with Metro issues will it be worth it? Really I need it to quit asking permission at any cost.

 

[Calico]

Well I'm not sure what's going on precisely. It seems like any old folders I brought over, created by my old user account are requiring my own damn permission to copy individual files over, delete them, and so forth. What's the trick to enabling global administrator? Also I just dragged the UAC bar down to the bottom. Is there a way to completely disable it, and I wonder if with Metro issues will it be worth it? Really I need it to quit asking permission at any cost.

You can disable it completely by making the following change:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

Change the value for EnableLUA

UAC Enabled = 1
UAC Disabled =0

   Warning

Disabling UAC using this method will break all Metro Store apps until enabled again, and the computer restarted.

For the proper method for Windows 8 now, see: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5509-user-account-control-uac-change-settings-windows-8-a.html

With regard to the Administrator account, I believe the reference is to enabling the hidden Administrator account. If so, this can be done from a command prompt using the following:

net user administrator /active:yes

and to disable

net user administrator /active:no

Logoff and on again and you should see an option for the Administrator account. Probably wise to enable a password

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there

remember this is the CONSUMER preview -- "Bog standard" users shouldn't be installing that much stuff to a system anyway.

If you want to "Tinker" then you should really login with a separate Administrator account like linux users do with ROOT.

I've installed a few apps (as a User) and haven't really been bothered with the UAC. It pops up but I'm not that bothered -- seems to popup about the same as W7.

Here's a basic list of what I've installed -- may have missed a couple

Office 2010 x-64 professional (complete) inc Outlook 2010 x-64
project 2010 x-64
Visio 2010 x-64
VLC media player
Metastock 11.0 (Stock tech analysis program)
AnyDVD
Acronis Home 2011
Adobe CS 5.5 suite inc Photoshop, Acrobat etc etc.
Treesize (nice disk usage display by file size as a Tree)
Winamp
Avs video converter
Tmp Genie DVD authoring
Nero 9.0
Mp3tag
Utorrent
HTC Sync (sync with android HTC phone).


Might be something I've missed but I didn't seem to have an overbearing problem with UAC.
It popped up but wasn't an issue.


Cheers
jimbo

 

[Calico]

It's not so much installing applications, I haven't actually installed anything, there again I use mostly non-installer applications, it's more a question of not being able to to basic things, like copy files to ones home folder, without being prompted for administrative privileges, not something I've ever seen in Windows 7.

Anyway, I've disable UAC, something I did way back in Windows 7 beta. There's nothing in Metro I want, and I have no use for IE. If there's anything 'ugly' that arises out of that decision, I'll reassess based on the fallout.

 

[stevieray]

Hi there

remember this is the CONSUMER preview -- "Bog standard" users shouldn't be installing that much stuff to a system anyway.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I think the purpose of a beta is the opposite -- we, the beta testers, are supposed to do whatever we feel like doing, from the stupid to the sublime, in order to emulate the behavior of the mass market. If all we do is modify our behavior to match what the beta can do, then we are being trained... and not doing testing.

Back when 7 was new, I routinely tried pretty much anything that popped into my rather odd, misshaped brain (and consequently got really good at reinstalling... heh) until I broke it. That's what I am gonna do to 8 as well. After all, isn't that the point of the whole beta thing?

 

[SIW2]

If all we do is modify our behavior to match what the beta can do, then we are being trained... and not doing testing.

Absolutley.

I already see people giving in to the idea that they must love it - if not , they will be out of step.

Hilarious, but also sad.

 

[echrada]

If all we do is modify our behavior to match what the beta can do, then we are being trained... and not doing testing.

Absolutley.

I already see people giving in to the idea that they must love it - if not , they will be out of step.

Hilarious, but also sad.

Just because you might not like it does not mean some of us cannot love it!

 

[chev65]

i tried disabling UAC in windows 8 cp and that fixes it, BUT we cannot run metro apps when u turn-off UAC in windows 8 cp.

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I am able to open and use the Apps even with UAC turned off. It seems to work different for some but I'm not sure why.

 

[netbox]

i tried disabling UAC in windows 8 cp and that fixes it, BUT we cannot run metro apps when u turn-off UAC in windows 8 cp.

I am able to open and use the Apps even with UAC turned off. It seems to work different for some but I'm not sure why.

How did u turn-off your UAC?

 

[chev65]

i tried disabling UAC in windows 8 cp and that fixes it, BUT we cannot run metro apps when u turn-off UAC in windows 8 cp.

I am able to open and use the Apps even with UAC turned off. It seems to work different for some but I'm not sure why.

How did u turn-off your UAC?

Control panel, category view, User Accounts and family safety, User Accounts, Change User account control settings, Slider down to bottom, hit OK. Apps work fine still for me anyway.

 

[vahnx]

Trying to move stuff to the desktop or say downloading a file and putting it in program files (x86) causes the window to appear even with UAC disabled. Or adding it to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs causes the warning. Anyone got a fix?

Here's an example of exactly what I did:

Downloaded Minecraft from minecraft.net
Made a Minecraft folder in C:/Program Files (x86)/ and warning popped up (#1)
Moved minecraft.exe from D:/Downloads to C:/Program Files (x86)/Minecraft and a warning popped up (#2)
Created a shortcut to Minecraft and got a warning, then it put it on my desktop (#3)
Cut the desktop icon to C:/ProgramData/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs to add it to a metro tile and a warning appeared(#4)
Launch the game; typical .exe warning by Windows, this file may harm my computer (#5)

Now I can launch Minecraft from metro. Seriously, 5 warnings with UAC disabled and my account having admin privellages, really MS?

 

[netbox]

I am able to open and use the Apps even with UAC turned off. It seems to work different for some but I'm not sure why.

How did u turn-off your UAC?

Control panel, category view, User Accounts and family safety, User Accounts, Change User account control settings, Slider down to bottom, hit OK. Apps work fine still for me anyway.

It doesnt turn off the UAC from that, you just set it up to the lowest level..
I thought you have other ways to turn-off UAC other than the registry editing to 0, that eliminates the nag questions for permissions when copying files to Windows directory or program files.

 

[johnpombrio]

It's mostly due to inherited permissions. Here is how to change them:

http://www.eightforums.com/general-...permissions-causes-access-denied-folders.html

 

[Calico]

It's mostly due to inherited permissions. Here is how to change them:

http://www.eightforums.com/general-...permissions-causes-access-denied-folders.html

I think this is a slightly different issue. This is a situation where performing fairly mundane tasks results is being asked to provide Administrative rights, even when logged on with an Administrative account. This is far more prevalent under Windows 8 and really quite annoying.

 

[johnpombrio]

It's mostly due to inherited permissions. Here is how to change them:

http://www.eightforums.com/general-...permissions-causes-access-denied-folders.html

I think this is a slightly different issue. This is a situation where performing fairly mundane tasks results is being asked to provide Administrative rights, even when logged on with an Administrative account. This is far more prevalent under Windows 8 and really quite annoying.

Calico, I THINK they are the same, heh. What happens is that in order for a folder to get its permissions, it looks to its parent when it created for what kind of permissions is necessary to open/use/write to that folder/program. The reason it seems so random is that copying a folder from one place to another DOES NOT break that parent-child relationship. The folder you are dragging into can be completely open but the folder you are copying still has the onerous permissions left over from where it was created/came from. I had a folder that had full permissions for users but when I dragged over my Steam folder, it was locked down solid as rock by the permissions that a REFRESH created on my Windows.old folder. I had to do a song and dance to get permission to even start Steam.

 

[Calico]

I can agree that inherited permissions may be a factor on newly created folders, but I'm referring to standard system/user folders on a clean system. For example, in Windows 7 I can copy a file from anywhere, to the root of C: - no inherited permissions - with UAC on default settings and logged on with an account that's a member of the Administrators group. If I try the same thing in Windows 8, with the same settings, I'm prompted for Administrative permissions.

 

[Pixel Eater]

I'm still trying to understand this one. I've always kept my icons in the user folder, because I like to. I'm wondering if there's even a way around this specific issue.