Solved Disabling fast startup - 8.1 not working

[moze229]

Windows 8.1 dual booted with Linux Mint 14.something. I've disabled fast-startup in the power options, BIOS, and have tried holding the 'SHIFT' key down while selecting 'Shut Down'. It appears that fast startup is still enabled in Windows however, because I cannot see the Windows partition from Mint. I get an error stating that the Windows NTFS system is in a hibernation state (fast-startup) and is unstable, which leads me back to disabling fast-startup. Any suggestions on what I may be missing? I suppose the problem could be something in Mint, but I'm sceptical of that at this point. I'm able to access my Mac on the network and another older Windows drive through Mint. Thanks for any suggestions!

 

[MilesAhead]

This tutorial may be helpful

 

[moze229]

This tutorial may be helpful

Thanks! I actually followed a similar tutorial earlier but it wasn't helpful. This tutorial wasn't really either, EXCEPT it mentioned completely disabling hibernation. That is the only way that I was able to get it to work. I still don't think that's how it's supposed to work, but at least I can see the files now. Thanks.

 

[TechnoMage]

It's a common notion, among techies anyway, that MS really screwed up when they released Windows Millennium Edition (ME), and again when they released Windows Vista. Both actually worked, but......
two things that they never did get right, at least not 100% right, was/is Hibernation and Sleep. The concepts may have been well intentioned, but the actual code was flawed and remains so today.

So in spite of the inevitable nay-sayers who will say I'm crazy, in the first ten minutes after I install a new OS, I permanently disable both Hibernate and Sleep. I get rid of Hibernate with a little batch file, and Sleep, in the Power Management app. Just tell the OS to NEVER go to sleep and that problem is solved. Your computer will love you for that.

Then I never have any problems with either one, and a HUGE side effect of disabling Hibernate, is to get rid of that 600 pound Gorilla in the root directory, called 'Hiberfil.sys'.
I have eight Laptops/Notebooks/Netbooks, and there is "NO SLEEPING ALLOWED".
All my computers operate in just two modes.....ON and OFF. Life is so much simpler like that!

Cheers Mates! Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?

TechnoMage

 

[moze229]

It's a common notion, among techies anyway, that MS really screwed up when they released Windows Millennium Edition (ME), and again when they released Windows Vista. Both actually worked, but......
two things that they never did get right, at least not 100% right, was/is Hibernation and Sleep. The concepts may have been well intentioned, but the actual code was flawed and remains so today.

So in spite of the inevitable nay-sayers who will say I'm crazy, in the first ten minutes after I install a new OS, I permanently disable both Hibernate and Sleep. I get rid of Hibernate with a little batch file, and Sleep, in the Power Management app. Just tell the OS to NEVER go to sleep and that problem is solved. Your computer will love you for that.

Then I never have any problems with either one, and a HUGE side effect of disabling Hibernate, is to get rid of that 600 pound Gorilla in the root directory, called 'Hiberfil.sys'.
I have eight Laptops/Notebooks/Netbooks, and there is "NO SLEEPING ALLOWED".
All my computers operate in just two modes.....ON and OFF. Life is so much simpler like that!

Cheers Mates! Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?

TechnoMage

Tip noted. I've never had such problems with sleep, and I've NEVER used a hibernate feature on any computer. However, it seems that the hibernation "problem" must have been activated (at least with my particular problem) with something later than XP. I've used all Windows up to XP, and hadn't used it again until Windows 8.1. I'm an evil Mac user, and have been using OS X for the past 12 years. It wasn't until last year I installed 8.1 on a newly built machine. This was the only drive that I wasn't able to see from Linux and didn't bother with it until today. Real important issue huh? LOL

I also noticed that after disabling all this fast-boot/hybrid boot/hibernation crap that there is no determinable difference between boot times - at least for me. Thanks for the additional information.

 

[MilesAhead]

Glad you have it working well. I think the 'W' in Windows stands for work-around. There is still too much undocumented stuff to ever know if it is "working as designed."

With the desktop guys on the outs I'm sure stuff like Explorer and Registry will never be officially documented other than a smattering of KB articles as problems arise.