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Desktop - Boot Directy to using a Scheduled Task


Kari

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Desktop - Boot Directy to using a Scheduled Task
This tutorial will show you how to boot Windows 8 directly to the desktop using a scheduled task to bypass the Start screen.
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How to Boot Windows 8 Directly to Desktop using a Scheduled Task
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This tutorial will show you how to boot Windows 8 directly to the desktop using a scheduled task to bypass the Start screen.
How to Boot Windows 8 Directly to Desktop using a Scheduled Task

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Personally I like the new Start Screen. For me it is more logical to use allowing more customization options than the Start Menu on previous Windows versions.

I like to see the Mail app live tile telling me about unread mail messages, the People app live tile notifying me when I have new messages on social media, my selected news app live tiles giving me brief summary of today's news.

However some users want to get directly to Windows desktop. This tutorial will show you how to boot Windows 8 directly to the desktop using a scheduled task to bypass the Start screen.

Tip   Tip
In Windows 8.1 and Windows RT 8.1, see OPTION TWO in the tutorial link below instead now.

How to Go to Desktop or Start when You Sign in or Close Apps in Windows 8 and 8.1



Here's How:

1. Press Win + Q key to open Charms App Search or Win + W to open Charms Settings Search, type Schedule and hit Enter to start Task Scheduler. Alternatively press Win + X to open Windows Tools menu bottom left and select Computer Management, select Task Scheduler in the left pane

2. Click Create Task on Actions pane:
Boot_To_Desktop_01.png
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3. Name the Task as you wish, select Configure for: Windows 8, click OK:
Boot_To_Desktop_02.png
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4. Select the Triggers tab
- Click New
- Select At log on from Begin the task drop down list​
- Select Enabled
- Click OK
Boot_To_Desktop_03.png
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5. Select the Actions tab
- Click New
- Select Start a program from the Action drop down list​
- Type C:\Windows\Explorer.exe to Program / Script text field​
- Click OK
Boot_To_Desktop_04.png
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6. Laptops / Notebooks only: Select the Conditions tab
- Unselect Power: Start the task only if the computer is on AC power
(this takes care of that the task is run also when logging in using battery power)​
Boot_To_Desktop_05.png
That's it. Now every time you log in to Windows, it bypasses the Start Screen entering directly to Desktop, with File Explorer open showing your Libraries.
Boot_To_Desktop_07.png
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To again boot to Start Screen instead of Desktop, open the Task Scheduler as told above (step 1.), select Task Scheduler Library, right click your task and select Disable:
Boot_To_Desktop_06.png


Kari


 
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Barman58

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Kari,

Can I assume that this will work with other executables, such as iExplorer.exe, or Winword.Exe, or is it confined to actually running explorer.exe, would be useful for some to start-up in the application they use everyday.

If it's limited to running explorer I suppose a second Task, set to run after this one and set to run the app of choice would work.

Also it should be possible to add parameters to the task, maybe, have the OS boot straight into www.eightforums.com ;)
 

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Kari

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Kari,

Can I assume that this will work with other executables, such as iExplorer.exe, or Winword.Exe, or is it confined to actually running explorer.exe, would be useful for some to start-up in the application they use everyday.
I have been testing with almost every thinkable application, seems Explorer is the only one which causes Windows to enter directly to desktop. All other applications, including browsers wait until the user has clicked the Desktop tile before executing the task.

Just now I am playing with an idea to create two tasks. First to launch Explorer as told in this tutorial adding the /separate argument. As you know the command explorer.exe /separate launches a separate second Explorer instance, so we can kill this second instance without meddling with the first Explorer instance.

Now the second task would then launch command C:\Windows\System32\Taskkill.exe /IM explorer.exe, killing our second Explorer instance launched with Task Scheduler, leaving a nice and empty desktop. The issue is timing: This Taskkill task must be delayed to let the Explorer task run first. If delay is set to 2 seconds I get it working on one vm and one physical desktop PC and not working on two vms and a laptop I have tested.

If it's limited to running explorer I suppose a second Task, set to run after this one and set to run the app of choice would work.

Also it should be possible to add parameters to the task, maybe, have the OS boot straight into www.eightforums.com ;)
On Action tab (tutorial step 5.) you can add other actions, launch for instance your browser on Eight Forums. One scheduled task can include several actions. If you add actions here it is important to set delays for each action so the resulting application windows open in correct order, the one you open last will be on top of all others. Of course you can also set these other apps to open minimized, in Taskbar (create a shortcut > Properties > Run minimized).

Kari
 

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    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
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Barman58

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Thanks for the insight Kari,

Will have to find some time to sit down and seriously play with eight, just don't get enough time at the moment :)
 

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    32GB [4x8GB] DDR3 1600 MHz
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    ASUS Xoner DG + SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI
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    Acer G276HL 27", (DVi) + Samsung 39" HDTV (HDMI)
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    Crucial 256GB SSD,
    WDC WD30EZRX-00D8PB0 3TB,
    Toshiba HDWD130 3TB
    Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB,

    External (USB3)
    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB
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    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K710 & K270
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I followed the link from one of those debate-threads.

Great work Kari! I'll give it a go on my laptop. I'm testing some speed scenarios (how fast I get to desktop/start, it's about loading)

Thanks a lot.
 

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    Intel i7-3630QM
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    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
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    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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Kari

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You are welcome, Hopachi.

I'm very keen to hear suggestions, I'm still testing how to boot to EMPTY desktop. At the moment this is the only solution I get to work on every PC, going to desktop with Libraries open.
 

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    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
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    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
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    50 MB VDSL
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    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
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Typing "task" doesn't take me to the task scheduler, only the task manager.
Sorry. My bad, a typo. It should say "Type Schedule".

Tutorial edited.

Kari
 

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    6 GB
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    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
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    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
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    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
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    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
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    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
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    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
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I don't think so. Maybe it works for your config, but for me, it will not work unless you have also enabled the Admin tools through the charms - settings.
 

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Kari

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I don't think so. Maybe it works for your config, but for me, it will not work unless you have also enabled the Admin tools through the charms - settings.
I really do not understand what's your purpose of this?

To show you something, I just installed Windows 8 fresh on a test machine and recorded following using the Windows built-in Problem Step Recorder (Win + W, type PSR in normal Windows 8 machines, do not know what you need to type to find it).

First, here are the steps I PSR recorded. Please keep in mind this is an absolutely new, fresh install, in fact this PSR was the first app ever launched in this setup as I installed Windows 8 now only to make this recording:

Code:
Recording Session: ‎16/‎04/‎2013 14:15:55 - 14:16:22
Recorded Steps: 8, Missed Steps: 0, Other Errors: 0
Operating System: 9200.16551.x86fre.win8_gdr.130306-1502 6.2.0.0.2.49
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 1: User left click on "Start Screen (list item)" in "Start Screen"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Start Screen, Start Screen, ImmersiveSwitchList
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 2: User left click on "Settings (button)" in "Charm Bar"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Settings, TouchButton, CCharmBarElement, Charms, NativeHWNDHost
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 3: User left click on "Tiles (list item)" in "Settings"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Tiles, SettingsButton, ItemList, TouchScrollViewer, Settings, SettingsUI, Element, Charm window, FlyoutElement, Settings, Shell_CharmWindow
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 4: User left click on "Back (button)" in "Tiles"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Back, BackButton, Tiles, Element, Charm window, FlyoutElement, Tiles, Shell_CharmWindow
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 5: User left click on "Close (button)"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Close, Shell_LightDismissOverlay
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 6: User keyboard input on "Start menu (pane)" in "Start menu" [... Win-W][/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Start menu, CHostElement, Start menu, ImmersiveLauncher
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 7: User keyboard input on "Search (pane)" in "Search" [...][/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Search, SearchPane, Search, SearchPane
[COLOR=#b22222][B]Step 8: User left click on "Schedule tasks (edit)" in "Settings Search"[/B][/COLOR]
Program: Windows Explorer, 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247), Microsoft Corporation, EXPLORER.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE
UI Elements: Schedule tasks, RichText, Schedule tasks, CFileSystemElement, Project to a second screen, GridGroup, GridContent, TouchScrollViewer, Grid View, GridRoot, Results List, UIExplorerBrowser, Settings Search, UIFileSearchApp, Settings Search, FileSearchAppWindowClass
And the important screenshots created by PSR:

Step 4: Clicking Tiles to show admin tools are disabled:

2013-04-16_142650.png

Step 7: Typing Schedule to Charms Settings Search clearly show Schedule Tasks as first search result > hitting Enter will open Task Scheduler:

2013-04-16_142744.png

Complete PSR recording with all screenshots: View attachment PSR.zip (You need to use IE to read the zipped .mht file)

Keenly waiting your next move!

Kari
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
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    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.

Hopachi

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At the moment this is the only solution I get to work on every PC, going to desktop with Libraries open.
At the moment this does the job well. :thumb:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.

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Sorry Hopachi. As I said, I need to enable the Admin tools in the settings, in order to get a result from search. It may be my particular configuration. It is not my intention to discredit your tutorial.- You do have to reboot after enabling or disabling, but this is what I get. As you can see, if I have the Admin tools disbled, like this:

Admin.png
I get this:

None.png If I enable the Admin tools, and reboot, I get this:
found.png
 

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Kari

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Have you tried the settings search as told in tutorial, WIN + W?

Anyway, both search terms Task and Schedule finds Task Scheduler on my systems using app search (Win > Search or Win + Q > Search), and searching Scheduler in settings search finds it, with or without admin tiles.

Task Scheduler should also be found in All Apps.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
    Other Info
    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.

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seems Explorer is the only one which causes Windows to enter directly to desktop. All other applications, including browsers wait until the user has clicked the Desktop tile before executing the task.
Hmmm... Interesting.

Metro and the Start Screen are part of Explorer so Explorer always stared first, showing what it has to show.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.

Kari

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Yes, it is interesting. I would have thought other basic native Windows tools would also take user directly to desktop if launched on logon as a scheduled task but for instance Command Prompt behaves as I described: logon stops in Start Screen and cmd.exe (as scheduled task) is only launched when user clicks Desktop tile.

Most fascinating is that my tests with two tasks, launch Explorer in a separate task first on logon, then wait a few seconds and launch Taskkill to terminate this second Explorer process resulting an empty desktop works in one of my desktops and one vm. On all other rigs, physical and vm I have tested the logon stops at Start Screen, then when desktop tile is clicked the Explorer opens and immediately closes as these two tasks are launched.

But, it's OK. I like this challenge. If you have some ideas to test, please tell.

Kari
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
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Hopachi

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Dave, the search on the start is bumpy sometimes, can't figure out why. Some items need to be placed as shortcuts by force...

Going through the classical Control Panel (click anywhere in an open Explorer and go tho Desktop, then Control Panel) helps.
I see that those Admin tools are pinnable all at once but I didn't needed this in my config just to confirm.

My apologies if I missed some details.

If you've already fixed the issue then great job. :)
 

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Yes, it is interesting. I would have thought other basic native Windows tools would also take user directly to desktop if launched on logon as a scheduled task but for instance Command Prompt behaves as I described: logon stops in Start Screen and cmd.exe (as scheduled task) is only launched when user clicks Desktop tile.

Most fascinating is that my tests with two tasks, launch Explorer in a separate task first on logon, then wait a few seconds and launch Taskkill to terminate this second Explorer process resulting an empty desktop works in one of my desktops and one vm. On all other rigs, physical and vm I have tested the logon stops at Start Screen, then when desktop tile is clicked the Explorer opens and immediately closes as these two tasks are launched.

But, it's OK. I like this challenge. If you have some ideas to test, please tell.

Kari
No ideas for the moment but what you posted here is really worth knowing. :)

Compared to Win7's Explorer, in 8 the new UI which is mostly part of Explorer, adds some new rules we can even tell just from watching boots and tests.

Cheers!
 

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    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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davehc

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Tks for the response, Hopachi. As you say, the search is, sometimes, a little hit or miss. I did try several times with Admin on and off, and got the same result.
But, as you have read, there is still a couple of glitches with going straight to the desktop.
Like yourself, I find the Admin tools, on the modern screen, a waste of space, so prefer to do without. A quick visit to the CP is more practical.
For the moment, I find clicking the desktop icon is the fastest way to get to the desktop.

Keep at it!
 

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Hi all
i use this tutorials to do a short cut of my desktop
HTML:
%windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}
,than in step "action" (start program) in program/script fild just paste not browse just paste location of your short cut with extinsion (.lnk) in my case Desktop.lnk
And it is work for me
sorry for my bad English
 

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Hi all
i use this tutorials to do a short cut of my desktop
HTML:
%windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}
,than in step "action" (start program) in program/script fild just paste not browse just paste location of your short cut with extinsion (.lnk) in my case Desktop.lnk
And it is work for me
sorry for my bad English
Great!

I tried the shell entry in the arguments path under the action but it doesn't work that way.

You get to the point where you make the path to the command/script:
Code:
%windir%\explorer.exe
Then, as extra, under arguments in the scheduler window:
Code:
shell:::{3080F90D-D7AD-11D9-BD98-0000947B0257}
Doesn't seem to work, rebooted twice...

And without that extra argument it works well.
Strange... Maybe that shell it's not meant as an normal executable argument.

Thanks for letting us know the shortcut way works. :thumb:
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.