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Coke Robot

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What if Windows 8 was intentionally designed to be the way it was? As in, some user test groups were reported to all have had a negative response to Windows 8's UI, so why would Microsoft not change that before release?

Why? Lighting doesn't strike twice.

Windows 7 is and was Microsoft's fastest and best selling Windows version of all time. That's an accomplishment in itself and something that can't be replicated. vista was such an awful and poorly received OS that left people waiting for a good Windows OS for several years. Once that happened, 7, everyone loved it immediately and switched and upgraded to that.

So back to 8, could it have been intentionally flawed to be warmly received only to give way for Windows 9? We already know Microsoft is going to be actively listen to feedback (remember the "Windows 7 was my idea?") and develop much more features and changes to the OS, both Desktop and modern UI, so that 9 is an awesome OS that will make 8 haters fall in line for 9 and xp holdouts be fine with 9 and mine some 7 marketshare for 9.

Also, it could also reemphasize the "good, bad, good, bad" pattern of Windows releases.

What if?....
 

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If manager says, it has to be like this, it will, regardless what customers want, like in work, Nonsense prevails.
 

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I think That's a very good thought as it seams windows 9 is on the threshold of something new and amazing from which Microsoft needed to, by means of windows 8, to shift more attention to windows 9 to make it really successful ecosystem across many kinds of devices instead of just the desktop/laptop computers.

While I'm sure windows 7 and 8 are future resilient operating systems, they are in-fact just a stepping stone to windows 9 ecosystem and it would seam the only thing that could slow down the development of the ecosystem is if people stagnate on the stepping stones, this would hurt the rapped pace and movement forward for Microsoft future.
 

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Makes sense....
 

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I think That's a very good thought as it seams windows 9 is on the threshold of something new and amazing from which Microsoft needed to, by means of windows 8, to shift more attention to windows 9 to make it really successful ecosystem across many kinds of devices instead of just the desktop/laptop computers.
But even though we are close to 9 releasing, I'm still not excited about anything. Have they shown us anything or come up with something truly revolutionary? If it's just a better working Windows 8, then whatever. Where is the type, heck all I heard this week was all the gaga apple release stuff. My response to Apple this week...yawn!
 

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I think That's a very good thought as it seams windows 9 is on the threshold of something new and amazing from which Microsoft needed to, by means of windows 8, to shift more attention to windows 9 to make it really successful ecosystem across many kinds of devices instead of just the desktop/laptop computers.
But even though we are close to 9 releasing, I'm still not excited about anything. Have they shown us anything or come up with something truly revolutionary? If it's just a better working Windows 8, then whatever. Where is the type, heck all I heard this week was all the gaga apple release stuff. My response to Apple this week...yawn!
For a company that has had notorious software and detail leakage in its history, the upcoming release of Windows 9 and Windows Phone 9 have got to be the most driest rumor wells I've ever seen in recent years. The only thing we've had is a post Windows 8 build that had nothing, literally nothing to it along with speculation. That's it. Comparing this to the iphone 6, the surprise was already ruined weeks in advanced.

I agree, I think it's cute apple is putting technology in the iphone 6 that Windows Phone and android have had for two years now. OIS optics? Phesh! My phone was doing that before it was cool! The watch? I've never even worn a wrist watch in my life and don't intend on doing so now.

But anyways, it's best to wait it out for twenty days, then Microsoft will give us all a bone to nibble on with the Technical Preview of Windows 9.
 

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There is a right way, a wrong way, & their way.
 

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I do agree Apple is often late to the table with technologies, like NFC. But if Apple payments really take off, it will be the first time that NFC has really been put to its intended use. So,people will go wild for Apple and their technology.
 

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The question remains whether Apple can get retailers to turn on the NFC machines.

Some big merchants remain skeptical. Reed Luhtanen, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. Wal-Mart's senior director of payments strategy confirmed consumers won't be able to buy things at the world's largest retailer with Apple Pay.

Best Buy and Wal-Mart are instead backing a retailer-owned mobile technology group called Merchant Customer Exchange, which also counts Target Corp. among its members.
Source

Apple may get their Apple Pay off the ground, but it really won’t get anywhere without big retailers whether B&M or online. Google doesn’t seem to be making headway with Google Wallet. It does amaze me how Apple gets trends and fashions going even being late in the game, though.
 

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It will be interesting to see if merchants all of a sudden come around. When there is a ubiquitous standard, it makes things a lot easier. Like at my gym, they have life fitness equipment and they all have iPod docks on them now. And I bought a new VW and it comes with an iPod cable to connect to my iPod that I don't own.
 

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Curious how some are looking forward to the next thing designed to shaft them.
 

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I do agree Apple is often late to the table with technologies, like NFC. But if Apple payments really take off, it will be the first time that NFC has really been put to its intended use. So,people will go wild for Apple and their technology.
I used to work in Application Development in the credit card industry. It doesn't make a difference whether Apple or anyone else has a NFC-based payment solution. It's been out already for a couple of years, but nobody could convince merchants to upgrade.

There are a ZILLION credit card terminals out there that would have to be replaced with new terminals that have NFC capabilities. So you could wave your NFC device next to it. Sure, merchants can get a new terminal with NFC, but they HATE to upgrade their systems. Many, many have terminals over a dozen years old. Even the ones that were 'required' to be upgraded for security and other reasons.

It's going to take some time so attrition will slowly replace the current terminals with new ones that have NFC. But new merchants will be sold NFC as the 'have to have' feature, putting the fear of missed sales in their head if they don't upgrade.

Going to happen, but not overnight. Or maybe not at all.
 
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The question remains whether Apple can get retailers to turn on the NFC machines.

Some big merchants remain skeptical. Reed Luhtanen, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. Wal-Mart's senior director of payments strategy confirmed consumers won't be able to buy things at the world's largest retailer with Apple Pay.

Best Buy and Wal-Mart are instead backing a retailer-owned mobile technology group called Merchant Customer Exchange, which also counts Target Corp. among its members.
Source

Apple may get their Apple Pay off the ground, but it really won’t get anywhere without big retailers whether B&M or online. Google doesn’t seem to be making headway with Google Wallet. It does amaze me how Apple gets trends and fashions going even being late in the game, though.
The new apple pay apparently will deduct an unknown amount per transaction if apple pay is used.

Sounds sketchy, more like an apply pay tax.
 

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It will be interesting to see if merchants all of a sudden come around. When there is a ubiquitous standard, it makes things a lot easier. Like at my gym, they have life fitness equipment and they all have iPod docks on them now. And I bought a new VW and it comes with an iPod cable to connect to my iPod that I don't own.
Some merchants apparently have been working together with some other major companies to bring about NFC payment. I think att is one of those companies.

Speaking of such, I found out that the new card readers at my local Home Depot apparently are NFC enabled! I saw some guy with an android do just this today and I was shocked! There is no indication whatsoever that they are, other than the tap to pay feature on some cards. I shall test this tomorrow. :) Makes me wonder if most tap to pay readers are actually NFC readers....

As for the ipod and siri integration in cars, that's a pretty stupid thing to target a statistically small demographic especially with iphones. Why would you make a car with siri integration or iphone integration when the vast majority of users are on android? Beats me.
 

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I do agree Apple is often late to the table with technologies, like NFC. But if Apple payments really take off, it will be the first time that NFC has really been put to its intended use. So,people will go wild for Apple and their technology.
I used to work in Application Development in the credit card industry. It doesn't make a difference whether Apple or anyone else has a NFC-based payment solution. It's been out already for a couple of years, but nobody could convince merchants to upgrade.

There are a ZILLION credit card terminals out there that would have to be replaced with new terminals that have NFC capabilities. So you could wave your NFC device next to it. Sure, merchants can get a new terminal with NFC, but they HATE to upgrade their systems. Many, many have terminals over a dozen years old. Even the ones that were 'required' to be upgraded for security and other reasons.

It's going to take some time so attrition will slowly replace the current terminals with new ones that have NFC. But new merchants will be sold NFC as the 'have to have' feature, putting the fear of missed sales in their head if they don't upgrade.

Going to happen, but not overnight. Or maybe not at all.
I agree, just look at how slow retailers have been at getting chip and PIN readers in place. They still have a full year to do so and bet you anything, it'll be all next year stores magically have all new card readers.... :sarc:
 

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As far out and wacky this sounds it makes perfect sense heh. Careful watch your back, Microsoft probably read this and was like oh man he has learned too much!

:)

Thanks for the laugh.
 

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I cant wait to trust all of my payments to Apple (leaked pictures anyone), and Home Deport (admits that credit card system was hacked). C'mon, what could possibly go wrong? :)
 

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I cant wait to trust all of my payments to Apple (leaked pictures anyone), and Home Deport (admits that credit card system was hacked). C'mon, what could possibly go wrong? :)
Have to disagree with this. Security is like a blanketed anti virus. There is no security infrastructure which is 100% bulletproof. You can cover it up with whatever you want, build on top of it, layer it, shield it, monitor activyt, whatever you want to do but there is always a way. I will give you a good example every year or every other year or something Google Chrome offers a money reward to any hacker/person who can directly break the browsers security and guess what, every year it happens.

Another great example, linux/unix. The operating system to say the least is amazing and beautiful even to some. However, even on a root user account your security can be took down ( to my knowledge not on a regular user, the infection or whatever you want to call it would have to be on the root user but I am no linux/unix expert )

I see where you are coming from and what you are implying/saying but I had to do that small rant.
 

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Another great example, linux/unix. The operating system to say the least is amazing and beautiful even to some.
Tell me about it, I'm an RHCE (Red Hat Certified Engineer).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

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