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<blockquote data-quote="Dragon Drop" data-source="post: 549688" data-attributes="member: 15158"><p>You've made a pretty good list there. Most of those you named were commercially available, but a few (such as ENIAC) were only privately made.</p><p></p><p>What I meant by the question is, who made the first "computer" -- if you EXCLUDE computers that were only made privately, for demonstration purposes or as experiments, and were not available on the open market?</p><p></p><p>And I also mean to exclude the old punch-card devices (with names like Calculator, Tabulator, Collator, Accounting Machine, etc) which had wired control panels but no stored program, and were therefore just "electro-mechanical" rather than truly electronic. They were POWERED by electricity, but so is a light bulb. The "math, logic, and control" were done by mechanical parts rather than by electric circuits.</p><p></p><p>Within those restrictions, the earliest "computer" that I know of was the "Univac I" which came out around 1950. It was made by Remington, which now makes electric razors and other small appliances. It amuses me to think that every day there are millions of guys shaving with Remington razors and not knowing that they're using products of the first (as herein defined) computer manufacturer! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>BTW, here's a good computer history timeline:</p><p><a href="https://www.computer.org/cms/Computer.org/Publications/timeline.pdf">https://www.computer.org/cms/Computer.org/Publications/timeline.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragon Drop, post: 549688, member: 15158"] You've made a pretty good list there. Most of those you named were commercially available, but a few (such as ENIAC) were only privately made. What I meant by the question is, who made the first "computer" -- if you EXCLUDE computers that were only made privately, for demonstration purposes or as experiments, and were not available on the open market? And I also mean to exclude the old punch-card devices (with names like Calculator, Tabulator, Collator, Accounting Machine, etc) which had wired control panels but no stored program, and were therefore just "electro-mechanical" rather than truly electronic. They were POWERED by electricity, but so is a light bulb. The "math, logic, and control" were done by mechanical parts rather than by electric circuits. Within those restrictions, the earliest "computer" that I know of was the "Univac I" which came out around 1950. It was made by Remington, which now makes electric razors and other small appliances. It amuses me to think that every day there are millions of guys shaving with Remington razors and not knowing that they're using products of the first (as herein defined) computer manufacturer! :) BTW, here's a good computer history timeline: [URL]https://www.computer.org/cms/Computer.org/Publications/timeline.pdf[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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