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Clean Install - Windows 8


btcsys

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It comes included with a set of generic drivers, and can get them through Windows Update sometimes. It's best to install the latest device drivers from their manufacturer's support site though.
Hi Brink

Just wanted to get back to you and let you know what I have discovered.

It seems that Windows 8 does install successfully but I am not able to view it on my monitor. It does appear to be a video problem. I guess it is time that I join everyone in the 21st century. I have a test bench in the basement where I assemble systems. I am still using a Sony 19 inch CRT monitor. On a lark I hooked the box up to an LCD monitor and had no problems with the OS installation. It was not connected to the internet and the installation was flawless. I have repeated this more than once, so I am confident, at least in my case, the issue has been resolved.

Perhaps it is time to retire this CRT monitor.

Thanks to everyone for their input. I appreciate it.

Tony V
 

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Hello Tony,

Thank you for posting back with your results.

Yeah, I suppose that old CRT is official obsolete now. ;)
 

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machistmo

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So here is my question. I have a Lenovo W530 with a Windows 8 license in the bios and I can install Windows 8 from an ISO and then install the updates and then 8.1 and then all the updates and then more updates. I have an 8.1 with Update1 ISO and wonder how to get the install completed given this scenerio with the 8.1w/update ISO or will this one always require the install from the 8.0 ISO and then all that updating?

I have the Key pulled off the bios and am going to go ahead when I get 5 minutes to breathe and try to use this updated ISO. I hope I explained the situation well enough.
 

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Hello Machistmo,

You could use the 8.1 Update ISO, but you will need to install using a generic key (step 4) at first. When the Windows installation is finished, you would then need to change your product key to your OEM COA key to activate. It's all in the tutorial steps though. :)
 

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machistmo

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I must have missed it as did one of my co-workers. Then again we are doing this inbetween regular work. So anything is possible. We did not see the Step 22 as containing the needed information. You have to pull the key off the bios first. Because none of the machines we get shipped have keys they are all contained in the BIOS. So after using the ISO(UPDATED) when the pull was run, it pulled the Generic Key entered previously not the BIOS key. All the machines come pre-downgraded but have Windows 8 licenses.

So anyway... Is the a sure fire direct way to get the key from the BIOS no matter what product key is installed? Again this is a side project and only being done in the 5 minute chunks of time we have to devote to it.
 

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machistmo

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It a unique set of circumstances, I understand. It's just like MS to overly complicate. So I still dont like that they decided to make 8.1 not accept the 8 keys. I know there are reasons for everything, I just dont like it. It appears that all these Keyfinders just pull from whatever is installed and not from the encrypted BIOS file, is that right? Anyway thanks for your time, it is always appreciated.

Leave it to an insurance company to try to get us excited about it being Wednesday.
 
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Yeah, they'll only pull whatever key that Windows is currently activated with.
 

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Casey Stellar

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Are the ISOs no longer available?
Hey Casey,

If you have a retail product key, you can still download a Windows 8.1 w/Update ISO. :)

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-windows-8-1-iso-download-create.html
Hey Brink,

Well I don't have a key yet but, I was just hoping to have a hard copy just my W7 & XP only to remember that M$ decided to do away with hard copies & ISOs :cry: I guess I'll just have to wait lol. Thanks though man. ;)
 

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You're welcome.
 

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Looking for help installing retail version of 8.1.
Gigabyte GA-78LMT motherboard
4gb of ram
Seagate 500gb sata HDD ( new, but was used on an older machine using windows XP until i could get other components)

Tried to install 8.1 and i get to the screen about drive partitions. The warning message i get says the partition is not big enough. The install is not seeing the entire disk size. I would normally just format the drive at about this time during the installation of older windows software, but it will not let me click format from the options. It will not let me do anything at this point. Can I use the DISKPART to clean the drive to continue the installation?
 

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Casey Stellar

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Looking for help installing retail version of 8.1.
Gigabyte GA-78LMT motherboard
4gb of ram
Seagate 500gb sata HDD ( new, but was used on an older machine using windows XP until i could get other components)

Tried to install 8.1 and i get to the screen about drive partitions. The warning message i get says the partition is not big enough. The install is not seeing the entire disk size. I would normally just format the drive at about this time during the installation of older windows software, but it will not let me click format from the options. It will not let me do anything at this point. Can I use the DISKPART to clean the drive to continue the installation?
You can try this tool. WD Support / Downloads / Other Products / Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for Windows It writes zeros to first last million sectors and deletes the full partition table. After running this tool, you'll have to re-initialize the disk. If you need help re-initializing the disk, let us know.
 

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I have a Win 8 retail disc and a recent 8.1 burned one from the online iso file. Do the generic keys refer to the original disc version or the one being used for the install? Thanks,
 

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
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    1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2,
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Hello Brink, thank you very much for all the outstanding walk throughs and tutorials. I was hoping I could verify a few things with you before I went ahead and started the whole process of doing a clean install on my laptop. Unfortunately I don't have the capability to send you private messages on this forum. Is there a way I can message you other than through these threads? assuming you wouldn't mind answering a few questions.

Thank you again for all this awesome info,

- Joey
 

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Hello Joey, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Please go ahead and post your questions here, and I'll be happy to see what I can do to help. :)
 

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well I have gone through a lot of you instructions and I think I understand what to do, but I do not have much experience with this kind of computer work. I recently received a Samsung Avit book 4 with a lot of bloatware and I wanted to do a clean install of 8.1

I don't have 8.1 Pro and I'm pretty sure the OS didn't come on a disk so its OEM, it came with Windows 8 (standard) not 8.1 btw. So I wanted to use a bootable usb with UEFI to install 8.1 then activate using my product key as you have outlined in many threads.

However I was planning on factory resetting the system now and copying the current partitions just in case I messed things up, because the article says that the disk needs to be completely partition free. You clearly state that you cannot make a sector by sector copy of GPT disks, but can make a copy of sector by sector copy of contents of ESP.

1. Is it possible to/How can I clone, or make an exact copy of my current system and place it on an external hard drive without messing the data up. Aside from my C: drive, I have 5! other partitions and I'm not sure what contains what. There's a healthy: a EFI system partition , and 4!! recovery partitions; some only half a GB some 20GBs

2. I also wanted to confirm that even though I already recovered my encrypted product key, do I still need to enter a generic key upon installation, and activated later with my OEM key?

I have other questions but hopefully you can direct me to a solution for these questions first.

Thank again!
 

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