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Kat

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I just changed from StartMenu 7 to Classic Shell.

Once I'd played around with the options, I'm very happy with it.

And it looks much neater and more professional.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire Ethos AS8951G 'Super-Laptop'.
    CPU
    Intel Sandy-Bridge i7-2670QM quad-core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    8GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel 3000HD / Ge-Force GT555M 2 gigs
    Sound Card
    Realtek/5.1 Dolby built-in including speakers.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" full-HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1024
    Hard Drives
    2x750GB Toshiba internal, 1x500GB Seagate external, 1x2TB Seagate external, 1x640GB Toshiba pocket-drive, 1x640GB Samsung pocket drive.
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Air-cooled
    Mouse
    I/R cordless.
    Internet Speed
    Borderline pathetic.

esd827

Member
Member
win8cp, classic start menu.
popup settings for classic start menu 3.5.0.
startup pc, we want to ensure that pop-up screen does not come out.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8

esd827

Member
Member
I put the start menu setting to win8 startup.
Actually, when I start PC, I want to only start button.
I do not understand this setting.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8

Ivo

New Member
Power User
If you are talking about the setting "Disable the Start screen popup", it is to prevent the tiny start menu thumbnail from popping up when you move the mouse to the bottom-left corner. It does not disable the Metro start screen.

Hover the mouse over the setting to see a tooltip that describes it in more detail.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7

Ivo

New Member
Power User
Hm, that's quite hard to see. The MenuItems value was saved as hex numbers. Can you post it as text?
Anyway, my guess would be that your Computer has some shell extension that is incompatible with Classic Shell - maybe an icon handler, or namespace extension?
You can narrow down the problem by including the sub-items of Computer as separate menu items. Then open them one by one to see which one freezes Explorer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7

SIW2

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Team Member
@esd827

Do you mean you want the start button to appear automatically?

It does for me.

See if the ClassicShellService is installed correctly. Start type 2.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

Ivo

New Member
Power User
@esd827 - looks like the service doesn't work for some people. I am researching solutions, but I need more info. Please answer these two questions:
1) Do you automatically log in, or do you have to enter a password every time?
2) If you log out, and then log in, does the start button appear?

@SIW2 - that's weird. Can you find some crash information? Like callstack, or a crash dump?
Does Paragon have any shell integration? If so, maybe it tries to affect the HDD icons or behavior. That would explain why opening Computer fails, because the HDDs are immediately inside. Try disabling it and let me know if it helps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7

SIW2

Well-Known Member
Team Member
Pargon doesn't have any shell integration at all.

7-zip does of course.

Don't think that is the problem.

I have Classic shell in my win8 pe build - I used exactly the same reg entries, and it works fine. ( I have 7-zip in there as well )

I left a lot of metro out of the pe build.

Maybe that has something to do with it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

esd827

Member
Member
Correct the request.
My request is very simple.
When I start PC, I would like to be the picture below the desktop screen.
>@esd827 - looks like the service doesn't work for some people. I am researching solutions, but I need more info. Please answer these two questions:
1) Do you automatically log in, or do you have to enter a password every time?
Automatically log in. Login password is not set in my PC.
2) If you log out, and then log in, does the start button appear?
PC restart, the start button appear.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8

SIW2

Well-Known Member
Team Member
Fresh install win8 RP x86. Set up classic shell from scratch.

Only added 1 item - computer as a menu.

Explorer crashes and restarts when selecting a drive from the computer menu.

Dble clicking on any drive like in the screenie causes the problem

explorerfreeze-vclassicshell.jpg
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

xpclient

Classic Shell tester
Member
If shell extensions are a suspect in the crash, you can use NirSoft's ShellExView to see which are installed by any programs. I added (My) Computer as an expandable menu but clicking any of the drives isn't crashing Explorer for me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows
    Other Info
    I do the testing and give feedback on User Experience and ideas for Classic Shell.

NiFu

New Member
Power User
I have tested it on three different machines (Tablet, Netbook, Notebook):
1) Do you automatically log in, or do you have to enter a password every time?
Automatically log in.

2) If you log out, and then log in, does the start button appear?
Yes, then the start button appears.

If I use a password and have to enter the password at login, then the start button appears right away.

My workaround:
  • Disabled the service "Classic Shell" via "msconfig"
  • Start "Classic Shell" via shortcut in startup folder
Works on all three machines.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8

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