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Solved Charms Bar (Time/Date Panel ) RegEdit wanted please.


sean6027

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#1
Anyone know if you can do a RegEdit to remove the "Time/Date" panel when you activate the "Charms Bar" please ?

I just hate the way it works. Can't see the point in it , I have the time and date on the superbar already and never use the start screen as such but I like the Metro search function ( So I wont disable it completely ). Am I correct in saying that the Metro UI part of Win 8 is not themeable , As in a custom "Visual Style" edit ?

Thanks

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sean6027

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Not really what I had in mind but thanks for the link I appreciate it. Stardock are not my favorite software company to be honest. I used to make themes for Windows Blinds for 7. Also used to make them with Style builder as well. I won't be buying anymore Stardock products.

Anyone know what Metro is written in ?

Anyone know where its stored on my PC ?

Is it all code or a mixture of code and images please ? At a guess its both due to the system Icons being shown. ( They are larger than the notification tray ones so I could edit them with transparent .pngs.)

Must be some way to customize it by messing with transparencies and altering the font sizes of the time and date panel.

I am using a custom visual style with my system patched. The time and date panel shows some transparency when opened up ,not much but its noticeable.

I personally think its a crappy design and had little thought put into it. Looks okish with the superbar docked at the bottom of the screen and looks good when position to the right to a certain degree. Unfortunately I have it on the left and its just a mess when it opens.

Another wild guess is that it will break the lock screen If I edit it , but I don't use that anyway:p

Views anyone ?
 

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You are most welcome. Considering your case I can only suggest you look into some soft called My WCP CharmBar customizer BUT I havent been able to get it to work properly on W8 myself (released for W8 CP) , maybe since you sound skilled in the subject, you could look into it and figure out some pertaining details to your question, good luck.
 

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.. from web barra+1.jpg
 

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The picture is exactly what I want , so it is possible. Just ran the app and it crashes every time. I did a quick google about and its made my "Canouna" ( The guy that did all the leaks over on My Digital Life forums ) from what I gather he isn't around anymore ?

As you said the app was made for the release preview. Heres the error log for it :

************** Exception Text **************
System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception (0x80004005): The system cannot find the file specified
at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
at My_WCP_CharmBar_Customizer.Form1.(Object , EventArgs )
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Label.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)




************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18046 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework64/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
My WCP CharmBar Customizer
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///E:/Downloads/My_WCP_CharmBar_Customizer.exe
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 10.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 11.0.50709.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/v4.0_10.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18045 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Core
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18046 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18022 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18046 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
zx_a07e5d34ea41479eadc762bc21101488
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///E:/Downloads/My_WCP_CharmBar_Customizer.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Web
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18045 built by: FX45RTMGDR
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_64/System.Web/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.dll
----------------------------------------


************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.


For example:


<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>
It has the option to edit the UI file manually , so if I can find that I may be able to do it myself. At a guess it will just be an .xml edit and then open up a .dll to find the image files.

Thanks so much for pointing me in the the right direction.
 

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I think "twinui.dll.mui" in C:\Windows\System 32\en-US may have something to do with this as you can edit the text of the charms bar with ResHacker. Think I better put Win 8 on my old laptop and see what I can break lol. I do remember vaguely some mods came out on the early betas to add and change the charms UI about but I think Microsoft removed the code for RTM. Most likely why the charms customiser you linked is now broken. Its a pity as that seemed really cool.

When I searched my Windows folder all I came up with was ADML & ADMX files. I could open them up with notepad but I don't think you can edit them as such.

The link you gave has some cool stuff on adding/deleting transitions. I will hook up my old laptop this weekend and give it a bash.

Thanks Amoled.
 

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:thumb: You are welcome , let me know if you figure our the magic sean6027.
 

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Ya...I can't understand why MS made a date&time at that lower left position when you hover over the Charms Bar
It could have it in the Charms Bar ....either above the search or below the setting.
Sure it will look better and less obstructive.


Ok...back to what you're looking for.....

I am presuming you are using Windows 8 RTM (X64)

The file to edit is C:\Windows\system32\twinui.dll

Please check that you have the product version of 6.2.9200.16604 by right click.. under Detail Tab

Replace the mod twinui.dll (download link below)...lock out and in for it to take effect.

The date&time should be out of sight.:)



twinui.rar
 

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Ya...I can't understand why MS made a date&time at that lower left position when you hover over the Charms Bar
It could have it in the Charms Bar ....either above the search or below the setting.
Sure it will look better and less obstructive.


Ok...back to what you're looking for.....

I am presuming you are using Windows 8 RTM (X64)

The file to edit is C:\Windows\system32\twinui.dll

Please check that you have the product version of 6.2.9200.16604 by right click.. under Detail Tab

Replace the mod twinui.dll (download link below)...lock out and in for it to take effect.

The date&time should be out of sight.:)



twinui.rar
I think "twinui.dll.mui" in C:\Windows\System 32\en-US may have something to do with this as you can edit the text of the charms bar with ResHacker.
So I was on the right track then ? I was going to pull it apart this weekend but I will give your version a bash , wow thats saved me a few hours digging away at it !

Just out of curiosity what lines in ResHacker did you edit please ? I'd love to make the background of the charms bar fully transparent as well :cool:

Will get back here later with a screen ( and a big happy smile as well lol) Its dinner time for me , off to stuff my face with pork chops lol.

Capture.PNG



Thanks BullDog +Rep for you.
 

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Nice Sean6027....great to see its working for you.

Just out of curiosity what lines in ResHacker did you edit please ? I'd love to make the background of the charms bar fully transparent as well :cool:
MS is not going to make life easy for us to hack their system files nowadays. MS push out updates faster
than we hack it. Once the system is updated we are back to square one. The line to edit will be all
difference.

ResHacker can't get this job done... you need Hex Editing....
As for the transparency background.. same thing...you need Hex Editing...

Now come Windows 8.1 Preview....guess we have to look into the line to edit again...

I will let you know how it's done once MS has finalize Windows 8.1.


Pork Chops...that's one of my favorite :p
 

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I did have a good look at it , and yeah its Hex ! Err..... Hex , yeah I'm lost completely with that. One thing I have learnt is not to mess with it :(

Yup , 8,1 changes the game , I was going to ask someone to up the .dll and check the version numbers , to see if they have changed. Maybe give it a go on a VM and try it myself ?

Thanks for coming back , and hey you like pork chops ? grab yourself a hottie and dinners at 8 ! Me and you can chat .dll hacking and the ladies can chat about why they love geeks hahaha.
 

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Any way to get this to work on 8.1? Charmbarcustomzier does not change anything when pressing apply. Edit UI file manually gives a lot of symbols I can't understand, did a CTRL + F for clock but didn't find anything.

Want the clock not to show. It stresses me out.

version of twinui.dll is 6.3.9600.17415
 

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