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Can't Disable Defender


crimson

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#1
I found 2 services related to Defender.
-Windows Defender
-Windows Defender Network

When I open the properties, all the options are blanked out.
 

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crimson

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#3
Ya I already did that. I was trying to disable it in the services. There's no way to turn it on or off. I'll try to see what will happen if I turn it back on.
 

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#4
You can do it only through registry. I already posted it, but someone removed it? So here is an image only.
Go to the corner and choose - Run - regedit - find the 2 paths in the picture and change Start - dword to 4.
 

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crimson

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#5
Thanks, but it didn't work. The default values for both of those were 3. I changed them to 4. I restarted. I checked the Services, and it was the same thing as the image I posted at the top. The values are still set to 4.
 

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#6
Run the sfc /scannow command, you may get your controls back if you had corrupt system files.
 

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crimson

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#7
There's no corrupt files.
 

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#8
Uninstall Avast and Online Armor, one of them could be interfering with the controls. I would say that Online Armor may be the culprit.
 

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crimson

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#9
OK. I've been thinking about getting rid of Avast. But I need a firewall to block applications from accessing the internet. Like MS Word or any Adobe will try to access the internet for everything even though I'm doing a completely offline project. If I'm writing a grocery list in Word or editing an image in Photoshop, why the hell are they trying to access the Internet? And Windows Firewall won't block anything from Microsoft, so it's useless.
 

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TairikuOkami

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#10

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crimson

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Have you set Windows Firewall to control oubound as well? It is disabled by default.
You can also use something like Windows 8 Firewall Control: Sphinx Software
It doesn't matter. Windows Firewall will let anything from MS through no matter what you do. Which is why it's important to always use a third party Firewall that asks you about every single thing communicating with the network if you want to allow/block once or always. That's why Online Armor is so great. It's runs light, and will do ask for every bit of communication.So I disabled Windows Firewall, and installed it.

I'm not sure what Sphinx is capable of. It says that it's base on the same security core as Windows Firewall. So I'm not sure how it would treat any inbound/outbound attempts by anything from Windows or MS. If not, then it would be far better than Online Armor by the looks of it. Very simple and very light.
 

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    Intel HD 4000
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    Screen Resolution
    2160 x 1440
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    Rip-off type cover
    Antivirus
    Avast, Malwarebytes, Online Armor

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