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Solved Can I transfer 2 RAID 1 mirrors from Windows 7 to Win8.1


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I have 2 RAID 1 mirrors (2 pairs of 2Tb discs) on an i7 870 on GA-P55A-UD7 (Gigabyte) motherboard under Win 7 64bit.

I have ordered a new desktop (i7 4771 on Asus Z87 DELUXE/DUAL MB) (hopefully with 8.1 on it (another thread)) :p

When I get my new desktop will I be able to transfer the two RAID 1 mirrors from the Win7 desktop to the Win8.1 desktop and have them work properly?

I hope! I hope! :cool:
 

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don't know much about raid ,except for when I first googled it years ago that it was not recommended for average computer user because of the fault /failure rate of it .below is basically what I read years a go and why I never ever used it
this from the link I provided ,in the link some say it will work so say it won't ,but they are just discussing win7 to win7 ,not to win8
[When re-installing Windows, keep in mind that using a RAID array is counter-productive in a home environment:

  • It provides no protection against 99% of all problems that home users encounter (e.g. user error, virus infection, file system corruption, file corruption, bad drivers, registry problems, loss of data due to lack of external backup etc.). RAID is NOT some advanced type of data backup solution!
  • It adds a level of complexity that can cause big problems unless you're an expert on RAID arrays and drivers. What would you do, for example, if one or the other disk failed?]

anyway I didn't think it would be possible to move it to 8 ,so I google and found this info ,good luck
How to move Windows 7 raid 1 drives to a new computer? - Microsoft Community


just curious, why do you use raid in you windows setup
 

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#3
If you are just moving the drives over from one motherboard to the other, you are going to run into issues with Windows. The question is, what are you using the Raid setup for. The other is. Are you keeping the other box still, and just wanting to know if you can move the info from one unit to the other across the LAN.

Really need a more descriptive reasoning in exactly what you are going to be doing with both machines. As for moving the drives, you can move them to any system you want. The problem lies in the fact that the Raid hardware on one motherboard, may not understand how the other motherboard created the Raid, when the drives were installed on the old one.

If you are going to retire the other system. I would set it up as a FreeNas unit. That way you can set it up with as large of a Raid as you wish. Just remember that you have to have a backup plan for all of that data, you plan on storing on the FreeNas system.
 

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It is important to understand that RAID in any form is not a backup solution. It's purpose is to maintain access to your data in the event of a drive failure. That is a big deal on a busy server, not so much on a home system. It's purpose is not to protect your data. It will offer protection only from drive failure and you can't even rely on that. It provides no protection whatsoever from other causes of data loss.

To protect your data you need backups. There is no substitute.
 

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LMiller7, no one ever stated that Raid was intended for backup of data. I do not know where you got that from.
 

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LMiller7, no one ever stated that Raid was intended for backup of data. I do not know where you got that from.
I am well aware of that. It is just that since RAID (in any form) is so widely misunderstood that I thought it important to emphasize what it is and what it is not. It was written not just for the original poster but for those who will be reading this at a later date.
 

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to bad the original poster wouldn't come back ,I was interested in seeing there comments on why they are using it
 

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Same here caperjack. Guess that we will never know.
 

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LMiller7, no one ever stated that Raid was intended for backup of data. I do not know where you got that from.
I am well aware of that. It is just that since RAID (in any form) is so widely misunderstood that I thought it important to emphasize what it is and what it is not. It was written not just for the original poster but for those who will be reading this at a later date.
I really do not know who those people are. Anyone that asks about a RAID, know what they are using it for.
 

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I really do not know who those people are. Anyone that asks about a RAID, know what they are using it for.
In my experience a substantial percentage, if not the majority, know very little of what RAID is.
 

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The easiest way to do this is real simple. Break the mirror on the Windows 7 system, and you will two hard disks with the exact same data. Install one of these hard drives into the Windows 8.1 System and have your data at your fingertips and to make sure every thing is working as you want it too. When the Windows 8.1 System is up and running and performing the way you want it too, then and only then would I install the second drive and re-mirror the two drives. That is what I would do...and I would have a backup somewhere else in case you know what hits the fan...
 

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I really do not know who those people are. Anyone that asks about a RAID, know what they are using it for.
In my experience a substantial percentage, if not the majority, know very little of what RAID is.
based on threads on this forum and a few others about the topic ,i agree with this statement
 

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#13
I'm back....

Busy babysitting my 6 grandkids so sorry I haven't had the time to get back to this thread :)

I have been using my RAID mirrors for about 3 years. 2 2Tb and 1 1.5Tb mirrors. During that time 2 X 2Tb drives have died and 1 X 1.5Tb. I am VERY happy with the resiliency and, yes, the backup facility of the mirrors.

I am buying a new desktop and I want to know if I can just unplug my mirrors off my old Gigabyte MB with Windows 7 to my new Asus MB with, hopefully, Windows 8.1. I am aware the Windows are different and the motherboards are different. I just asked and hope I can?

I am getting an i7 4771 which I understand to be in short supply so I may have to wait a while. My 1.5Tb mirror is degraded. I suspect the SATA port is dead or dieing as it not longer recognises a disc being plugged in. So it is time for a new system :)

If (and when) I get this new system I WILL create a test RAID mirror on my old system and move it across to the new system and see how that goes. :)

I just wanted to know in advance if it could be done? :geek: :huh:

I don't want to argue the point but my mirrors have served me magnificently for backup. When the mirrors degraded I just replaced the bad drives and the mirrors rebuilt themselves. What more can I ask for?

I accept it might be a bit slower and my data MAY not survive a virus attack but neither would duplicate drives or backed up data, unless the backups were disconnected and stored in a safe?

I am going to build 4Tb mirrors (assuming I can????) as my 2Tb mirrors are full.

I am hoping to unplug and replug my mirror from the old system to the new system and then copy everything off the old mirror to the new bigger mirror then clear the old mirror and use it for something else.

If the mirror can not be transported then I will have to copy the data (much more slowly) from the old system to the new system through the network. 2Tb is going to take a long long time copying over the network :(

Then I will have to do the same with the other 2Tb mirror. I have already copied the small mirror to 2 external USB3.0 HDDs.

I could ONLY have 3 mirrors on my old system so I had other "synced" drives. I am a retired Analyst/Programmer and I have experienced data loss before, personnally and professionally. Before I retired I worked on a Unix system with mirrors. Now THAT leaves Windows mirrors for dead. We used to "split" the mirrors carry on using one split while the other split was backed up (twice a day). Then remerged the mirrors and they automatically re-synced.

I hear what people say about mirrors but they have served me well, I'm glad to say.

Thanks for all your responses but I assume nobody has done what I hope to do? :shock:
 

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  • OS
    7 Pro & 8.1 Pro & 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self Built & self built
    CPU
    i7 870 & i7 4771 & i7 HP Laptop
    Motherboard
    GA-P55A-UD7 & Asus Z87 Deluxe/Dual
    Memory
    8Gb & 16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD5770 & None
    Sound Card
    inbuilt & inbuilt
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32' LED TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    About 40Tb
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    Antec TP-750C & Ditto
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    7 fans & 6 fans
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#14
I see a couple of posts about breaking the mirror? I haven't looked into this but I don't see the option to "break" the mirror in the "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" program. Is this only available in the "CTRL/I" option?

I have done all my mirror work through IRST never through the "CTRL/I" in the bootup :(

Obviously something I'm going to have to look at in the near future :)

Thanks for that....
 

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System One

  • OS
    7 Pro & 8.1 Pro & 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Self Built & self built
    CPU
    i7 870 & i7 4771 & i7 HP Laptop
    Motherboard
    GA-P55A-UD7 & Asus Z87 Deluxe/Dual
    Memory
    8Gb & 16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD5770 & None
    Sound Card
    inbuilt & inbuilt
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32' LED TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    About 40Tb
    PSU
    Antec TP-750C & Ditto
    Case
    Antec DF-85 & Antec Nineteen Hundred
    Cooling
    7 fans & 6 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX5500 Combo
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    Logitech MX5500 Combo
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#15
To answer my own question for anyone (like me) who wants to know.... :)

Object - a 2Tb RAID 1 Mirror

Source system

Windows 7 64 bit Pro
Gigabyte P55A-UD7 motherboard

Destination system

Windows 8.1 64 bit Pro
Asus Deluxe Dual motherboard

Unplugged off the source, plugged into the destination, switched on....

Copied 1.77Tb 6575 files from the 2Tb mirror to a 4Tb mirror - PERFECT.

So, you can move a RAID mirror from one system under W7 to another system under W8.1 :D
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7 Pro & 8.1 Pro & 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Self Built & self built
    CPU
    i7 870 & i7 4771 & i7 HP Laptop
    Motherboard
    GA-P55A-UD7 & Asus Z87 Deluxe/Dual
    Memory
    8Gb & 16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD5770 & None
    Sound Card
    inbuilt & inbuilt
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32' LED TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    About 40Tb
    PSU
    Antec TP-750C & Ditto
    Case
    Antec DF-85 & Antec Nineteen Hundred
    Cooling
    7 fans & 6 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX5500 Combo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX5500 Combo
    Internet Speed
    Naked DSL
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG