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Built-in Administrator Account - Enable or Disable in Windows 8


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#21
Hello Guiri,

While trying to boot to a command prompt at boot, you would have to first select and enter a password for any local administrator account on the PC to be able to. Afterwards, you'll be able to follow this tutorial to enable the built-in Administrator.

Hope this helps. :)
 

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#22
OK, thanks for the clarification, but I imagine that if the 'normal' administrative account cannot log in to Windows, it will not be possible to boot to a command prompt with that same ID and password either?

In other words: it's best to activate that administer account before any problems with the normal account happen?
 

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It depends on what the issue is with the normal administrator, but it certainly is possibly to not be able to use it's password if the user account is corrupted.

It would indeed be best to enable the built-in Administrator before you have any problems to make sure you will have it available if needed. In addition, I would recommend to rename the built-in "Administrator" before enabling it, and after enabling it to create a strong password for it to prevent others from being able to sign-in to it.
 

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#24
OK, thanks Shawn, it's on the todo list.
 

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You're welcome. :)
 

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EXCELLENT article! I had spent hours trying to sort this problem out and made the mistake of first looking at the Microsoft website which turned out to be useless. Linking my user account to my Microsoft Live account meant that the only activated administrator account on my PC was deactivated! Not sure why there is not a warning that admin accounts are automatically changed to a standard account (or I missed the message) when this is done. A number of other problems are now fixed or explained. Thanks for your help.
 

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Didn't help me. Disliked.
 

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Hello Benjamin,

Please provide some more details about your situation and how and what you are trying to do to see what we may be able to do to help. :)
 

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#29
i am unable to unlock-enable my 'built-in administrator account.
i have win 8. i don't think it is Pro. it is mentioned as windows 8 single language.

so, i cannot access lsurmgr.

i couldn't use the command prompt method too, using net user administrator /active:yes
the message i got was: 'user name could not be found'


when i tried to use the registry change method, i couldnot load the hive.
on selecting the file SAM, the message that came was 'this file is in use' ....

so, what do i do NOW?
could you help please ?

regards
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i am unable to unlock-enable my 'built-in administrator account.
i have win 8. i don't think it is Pro. it is mentioned as windows 8 single language.

so, i cannot access lsurmgr.

i couldn't use the command prompt method too, using net user administrator /active:yes
the message i got was: 'user name could not be found'


when i tried to use the registry change method, i couldnot load the hive.
on selecting the file SAM, the message that came was 'this file is in use' ....

so, what do i do NOW?
could you help please ?

regards
biren
Hello Biren, and welcome to Eight Forums. :)

What accounts does it show in Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Manage another account?

Please go ahead and post a screenshot of the elevated command prompt using the net user administrator /active:yes command to see if something may stand out.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2598-screenshots-files-upload-post-eight-forums.html
 
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Biren,

Is the is an OEM computer or one you installed yourself, and are you joined to a domain?

The built-in "Administrator" may have been renamed. Type the command below in the command prompt to show all local administrator accounts to see of "Administrator" may be listed. I don't think it will since it's not listed above with net user. Compare the results from the command below to see if one is not listed with the accounts you have listed in Control Panel. That may be the renamed built-in Administrator.


net localgroup administrators
 

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Biren,

Is the is an OEM computer or one you installed yourself, and are you joined to a domain?

The built-in "Administrator" may have been renamed. Type the command below in the command prompt to show all local administrator accounts to see of "Administrator" may be listed. I don't think it will since it's not listed above with net user. Compare the results from the command below to see if one is not listed with the accounts you have listed in Control Panel. That may be the renamed built-in Administrator.


net localgroup administrators

dear Brink.
thank you once again. that was quite fast. :)

i have a OEM laptop - dell with windows preinstalled, bought thru a reseller.

the cmd prompt lists 2 administrator accounts, and both this show up in the user account (snip below).

** REMOVED **

also...
when i access these accounts (log in thru), i see the apps in both cases, on the start screen. (i think, you mentioned that apps are not accessible in the built-in admin account)

regards
biren
 
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You'll still see some apps while signed in to the built-in Administrator. You'll just see something like this below if you try to open any of them though. Test to see if this happens while signed in to either your "biroo" or "biren-boss" local administrator accounts. If you do, then that's the built-in Administrator account.

error.jpg

Just to note though, that a normal administrator account has the same access as the built-in Administrator account, but only has to have you approve the UAC prompt to allow it to perform elevated actions.
 

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dear Brink,
mystery solved!
thank you.

i found the built-in admin account. it was one of the 2.

what you say is... that... what i can access /perform/ do from the built-in admin account, i will also be able to do thru the normal admin account? every nook and cranny of the computer can be in my control thru either of the 2 admin accounts, right?

if that is so, the restrictions i thought i was facing (non-accessability) must be because of not having windows 8 pro.

i will have to look into all the things i was not able to access.

thank you, once again, Brink.

warmth.
biren
 

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I'm happy to hear that you found the built-in Administrator account. :)

If you are referring to MMCs like Group Policy, Security Policy, Local Users and Groups, etc..., then yeah those are only available in the Pro and Enterprise editions.

Otherwise, all administrator accounts have full access. It's just that only the built-in "Administrator" is natively "elevated" to not need UAC approval before doing anything that requires elevated rights. The normal unelevated administrator accounts, would need UAC approval first.
 

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Excellent post. Very well written. Saved me a lot of time!

--wheelsOh1
 

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#38
i tried all above ....i am not able to do anything because user account control window yes button not shown please help me
 

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Hello Balajiraja, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Are you signed in to an administrator account?

If so, then you should be able to use any of the options in the tutorial available to you no matter of UAC.
 

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Balajiraja

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sir
now am sign in microsoft account sir and it act as local user sir
 

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