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[h=1]BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2[/h]
Rumor has it that Microsoft is planning to use the BUILD developer conference next month to introduce two new important products, namely the Windows Blue upgrade and the next-generation Surface tablet.


As compared to previous Windows iterations, the Windows Blue Start button would only allow users to launch the Start Screen and might not open a Start Menu.

BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.
 

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MS is really busy releasing these things, but I wish they would focus on one product and get it right and then move from there. Flooding the market with MS software and products isn't very smart.
 

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[h=1]BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2[/h]
Rumor has it that Microsoft is planning to use the BUILD developer conference next month to introduce two new important products, namely the Windows Blue upgrade and the next-generation Surface tablet.


As compared to previous Windows iterations, the Windows Blue Start button would only allow users to launch the Start Screen and might not open a Start Menu.

BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.

Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.
 

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Flooding the market with MS software and products isn't very smart.

You're right. All those surface tablets and versions of Windows 8 on the market are threatening to drown my ankles!
 

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BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2


Rumor has it that Microsoft is planning to use the BUILD developer conference next month to introduce two new important products, namely the Windows Blue upgrade and the next-generation Surface tablet.
As compared to previous Windows iterations, the Windows Blue Start button would only allow users to launch the Start Screen and might not open a Start Menu.

BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.

Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.

Jump to what? MacOS? Linux? Android?

A switch to macOS would require even more training and cause more headaches than win8. If you think people are lost now with no start button, wait till you see the look on their face when they are forced to use macOS.

Linux is 1337 system. A call for support will get 'you're too stupid to use Linux, go kill yourself' as a response from tech support.

Android ain't got no balls.

That leaves a few other poorly supported OSes.

And most business software were written for windows.

I wish your business the best of luck in switching. Tell us how it goes.
 

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BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2


BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.

Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.

Jump to what? MacOS? Linux? Android?

A switch to macOS would require even more training and cause more headaches than win8. If you think people are lost now with no start button, wait till you see the look on their face when they are forced to use macOS.

Linux is 1337 system. A call for support will get 'you're too stupid to use Linux, go kill yourself' as a response from tech support.

Android ain't got no balls.

That leaves a few other poorly supported OSes.

And most business software were written for windows.

I wish your business the best of luck in switching. Tell us how it goes.

I never said those were easier options. What I am saying is if W8 makes it hard to use (which they made hard by changing so rapidly and explaining so little) then what's stopping a company from looking at their iphone and their ipad on their desk and saying "lets just switch to Mac"?
 

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Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.

Jump to what? MacOS? Linux? Android?

A switch to macOS would require even more training and cause more headaches than win8. If you think people are lost now with no start button, wait till you see the look on their face when they are forced to use macOS.

Linux is 1337 system. A call for support will get 'you're too stupid to use Linux, go kill yourself' as a response from tech support.

Android ain't got no balls.

That leaves a few other poorly supported OSes.

And most business software were written for windows.

I wish your business the best of luck in switching. Tell us how it goes.

I never said those were easier options. What I am saying is if W8 makes it hard to use (which they made hard by changing so rapidly and explaining so little) then what's stopping a company from looking at their iphone and their ipad on their desk and saying "lets just switch to Mac"?

A button?

A button!

Classic Shell:
Welcome to Classic Shell


I believe goodintentions is right.

You miss just a tiny button that is replaced by a Screen (but the rest works just like in Win7) and that's why you want to switch to Mac...
:think:

But I don't believe you'll actually switch. :)

We always have to go off-topic with this discussions do we...
 

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You guys need to calm down. I'm not switching to Mac. I don't run a company looking to switch OS.
Chill.

However. My company's IT dept has said there is no way we are switching to W8.

Does anyone here feel like MS has done a good job selling or explaining W8?? Instead MS feels like people will adopt it because they have no choice. But they do.
 

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BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2


Rumor has it that Microsoft is planning to use the BUILD developer conference next month to introduce two new important products, namely the Windows Blue upgrade and the next-generation Surface tablet.
As compared to previous Windows iterations, the Windows Blue Start button would only allow users to launch the Start Screen and might not open a Start Menu.

BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.

Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.

I won't be switching OS because of Windows 8 UI. I will switch OS because M$ attitude toward there customers is a pile of monkey dung next they will be charging $1000.00 per hour for support then they will charge by the hour for desktop use and the list goes on.
If they can get away with the slap in the face start button going to metro what is next?
 

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You guys need to calm down. I'm not switching to Mac. I don't run a company looking to switch OS.
Chill.

However. My company's IT dept has said there is no way we are switching to W8.

Does anyone here feel like MS has done a good job selling or explaining W8?? Instead MS feels like people will adopt it because they have no choice. But they do.

Sorry. Chill here.

It's a normal reaction you have to the switch to 8. I also flipped out the first days. :D
But now I get along quite well in the new UI... don't like metro entirely but it does a good job when needed.

Your company's decision is a logical one and they're not the only ones to skip 8: Why buy newer licenses when Win7 will be there to stay for some time...

Cheers!
 

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BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2




BUILD 2013: Microsoft to Launch Both Windows Blue and Surface 2 - Softpedia

I for one will not be buying any M$ products if this is true. Hello Mint.

Like it or not but they have to have the start button. Most users are not computer savvy and need the training wheels. Remember, businesses who use Windows everyday. If you're going to ask then to start from scratch then they might as well make the jump to another operating system.

I won't be switching OS because of Windows 8 UI. I will switch OS because M$ attitude toward there customers is a pile of monkey dung next they will be charging $1000.00 per hour for support then they will charge by the hour for desktop use and the list goes on.
If they can get away with the slap in the face start button going to metro what is next?

Sorry but I disagree about MS tech support. I went to their website about updates that weren't installing. A MS tech remote desktop'ed with me and fixed the problems within 5-10 minutes.
 

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However. My company's IT dept has said there is no way we are switching to W8.
I''m one of the IT guys at my shop and in my office here in Michigan, we now have 5 employees now on Windows 8. There is a bit of training associated with the move, we install classic shell to give them a start button and have them booting straight to the desktop. The rest of Windows 8 is more or less a non issue.

I like having Windows 8 on the new laptops with SSD's because it boots from off in less than 10 seconds. Windows 7 is about 17 on the same hardware. And 8 brings up the network much faster, you can fingerprint logon without having to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL. All these things add up to a faster logon, faster network access and a faster experience overall.
 

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However. My company's IT dept has said there is no way we are switching to W8.
I''m one of the IT guys at my shop and in my office here in Michigan, we now have 5 employees now on Windows 8. There is a bit of training associated with the move, we install classic shell to give them a start button and have them booting straight to the desktop. The rest of Windows 8 is more or less a non issue.

I like having Windows 8 on the new laptops with SSD's because it boots from off in less than 10 seconds. Windows 7 is about 17 on the same hardware. And 8 brings up the network much faster, you can fingerprint logon without having to hit CTRL-ALT-DEL. All these things add up to a faster logon, faster network access and a faster experience overall.


Its helluva faster. Mine boots up in 12 seconds.

Mind sharing what (if any) feedback you've gotten specifically?
Good:
Bad:
Needs:

A small business wouldn't have as much problem as ours (120 employees).
 

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If they can get away with the slap in the face start button going to metro what is next?

That is absolutely right.

There was a time I thought they may try and get their existing user base on board.

That is a good indication MS have decided to double down their efforts to back door monetise the consumers.

Many will see it as an insult. MS must be fully aware of that.
 

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If they can get away with the slap in the face start button going to metro what is next?

That is absolutely right.

There was a time I thought they may try and get their existing user base on board.

That is a good indication MS have decided to double down their efforts to back door monetise the consumers.

Many will see it as an insult. MS must be fully aware of that.

I would see it as a big time insult or they may be trying to break Classic Shell programs either way still a big insult and abuse of power.
 

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"Abuse of power" -huh? We're still discussing a computer operating system here right? Hyperbolic much?

This debate reminds me of the angst in the Star Wars fanbase. People actually went quite mental over what they saw as George Lucas ruining the Star Wars saga. They forgot a very important detail though: Star Wars belonged to Lucas, it was his creation to do with as he pleased.

Last I checked Windows belongs to Microsoft. Altering in a way you don't like is not an "abuse of power", its a design choice. You can debate whether its a good or bad choice, but to suggest that Microsoft has somehow wronged people or done an evil thing is hyperbolic and childish.

Its a button, get over it. Or stick with 7 maybe.
 

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"Abuse of power" -huh? We're still discussing a computer operating system here right? Hyperbolic much?

This debate reminds me of the angst in the Star Wars fanbase. People actually went quite mental over what they saw as George Lucas ruining the Star Wars saga. They forgot a very important detail though: Star Wars belonged to Lucas, it was his creation to do with as he pleased.

Last I checked Windows belongs to Microsoft. Altering in a way you don't like is not an "abuse of power", its a design choice. You can debate whether its a good or bad choice, but to suggest that Microsoft has somehow wronged people or done an evil thing is hyperbolic and childish.

Its a button, get over it. Or stick with 7 maybe.


M$ has done it in the past.
 

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Let's keep this discussion friendly shall we. :sarc:

 

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I like Windows 8. It has a start screen and Apps if I want them BUT I DON'T, SO I DON'T USE THEM.
When I first got Windows 8 I deleted all the Apps I would never use. I've never used the App store. If I download anything it is always a desktop version. Other than this I can't see the difference between 7 & 8. 8 is slightly faster perhaps.

As I said - I like Windows 8; I also liked Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows ME and Windows 95. I probably would have liked Windows 3.1 as well but never got to try it.
 

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You guys need to calm down. I'm not switching to Mac. I don't run a company looking to switch OS.
Chill.

However. My company's IT dept has said there is no way we are switching to W8.

Does anyone here feel like MS has done a good job selling or explaining W8?? Instead MS feels like people will adopt it because they have no choice. But they do.


Seems many claims were made not to switch to XP at one time.
 

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