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Blue screens are back


xniosy

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#21
New crash. Folder updated.
 

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    Windows 8.1 64Bit
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    i5 4670K
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    MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
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    Vengeance 24GB (2x4GB,2x8GB) 1600Mhz
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    Gigabyte GTX 970 G1
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    Samsung EVO 120GB
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axe0

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#22
It'll take a while for me to track down the cause of the crash, meanwhile could you remove the 2x4gb RAM modules.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Custom build
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    i5-6500 @3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B150-HD3P-CF
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT
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    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
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    Liyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2
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    Corsair RM550x
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    Fractal Design Define S
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xniosy

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#23
Will do.

Thanks in advance.
 

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    i5 4670K
    Motherboard
    MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
    Memory
    Vengeance 24GB (2x4GB,2x8GB) 1600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 G1
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    LG Ultrawide 21:9
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    Samsung EVO 120GB
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axe0

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#24
The best I've been able to find is the nvidia driver being blamed. I have somewhat of a hard time to believe it.

Code:
SPECIAL_POOL_DETECTED_MEMORY_CORRUPTION (c1)
Special pool has detected memory corruption.  Typically the current thread's
stack backtrace will reveal the guilty party.
Arguments:
Arg1: ffffcf80d73e4b80, address trying to free
Arg2: ffffcf80d73e44f7, address where one bit is corrupted
Arg3: 0000000000530478, (reserved)
Arg4: 0000000000000032, caller is freeing an address where nearby bytes within the same page have a single bit error
Assuming it's the nvidia driver taking the action, it's trying to free memory.
Driver verifier catches a one bit error within the same page, but I can't find any single bit error, I do have to note I'm not very well versed with the memory management but still.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
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    i5-6500 @3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B150-HD3P-CF
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
    Sound Card
    Built-in
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    Liyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Crucial MX200 500GB & Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB
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    Corsair RM550x
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    Fractal Design Define S
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    Cooler Master TX3 i
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    Func KB-460 (MX Red)
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    Corsair Gaming M65 RGB
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xniosy

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#25
Thanks for taking the time to go through the dump.

Do you think diagnosing this is coming to an end?

I tried another Nvidia card not so long ago and it crashed within minutes.
Assuming it’s the Nvidia driver, this cannot be video card specific? It’s any Nvidia driver?

This is also to do with RAM? How come changing the freq to 1333Mhz stopped the crashes for a month?

How is the error being made?

Is changing Nvidia driver perhaps a lucky shot in hope that errors stop being made?

I don’t know enough on this so it’s difficult for me to fully comprehend. :)

Thanks for anything you can add to helping me fix this.
 
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    i5 4670K
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    MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
    Memory
    Vengeance 24GB (2x4GB,2x8GB) 1600Mhz
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    Gigabyte GTX 970 G1
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    LG Ultrawide 21:9
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    Samsung EVO 120GB
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axe0

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#26
Mismatched RAM is always something that needs to be taken care of IMO. Even though it's pretty much the same model it's the small detail that is the difference. I can't say if the RAM is truly involved, I don't know 100% certain until it is tested.

How come changing the freq to 1333Mhz stopped the crashes for a month?
Various reasons, like newly installed Windows updates, driver changes, hardware failure after the month, etc.

How is the error being made?
When the Special Pool option in driver verifier is selected, the system allocates reserved memory for the selected drivers. Driver verifier checks if everything within the pool goes smoothly. The driver wrote memory prior to beginning a buffer and attempted to free it, this is an action that is not allowed and results in a 0xC1 crash, it just so happened that the page wherein the driver wrote had an address with a single bit corruption which was detected.
I do not think it was a software crash, but a crash that was caused by possibly the RAM or some other part of hardware.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro
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    i5-6500 @3.20GHz
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    Gigabyte B150-HD3P-CF
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT
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    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
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    Built-in
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    Liyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2
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    1920 x 1080
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    Crucial MX200 500GB & Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB
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    Corsair RM550x
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xniosy

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#27
Interesting.

I once put the RAM and GPU in another system and it crashed with a typical message.

But I couldn’t get it to crash with either one or the other installed.

If it makes any difference, the two Corsair kits are identical except for GB size.
I tested each module individually running 8 passes on Memtest86, and in different DIMM slots. 0 errors

I’m gonna use this system until I decide on building a new one. There is no point in me spending money on DDR3 (or anything else) when I will have to buy DDR4 shortly after for a whole new platform...

Thanks for your efforts Axe. If anything comes to mind don’t hesitate posting here.
:)
Cheers
 

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    MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
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    Vengeance 24GB (2x4GB,2x8GB) 1600Mhz
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    Gigabyte GTX 970 G1
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    LG Ultrawide 21:9
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    Samsung EVO 120GB
    Kingston V300 120GB
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axe0

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#28
Did you also test the modules simultaneously?
 

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  • OS
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    CPU
    i5-6500 @3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B150-HD3P-CF
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Liyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX200 500GB & Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM550x
    Case
    Fractal Design Define S
    Cooling
    Cooler Master TX3 i
    Keyboard
    Func KB-460 (MX Red)
    Mouse
    Corsair Gaming M65 RGB
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xniosy

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#29
I have tested them a bunch of times.

8 passes on all modules together
8 passes on all modules together but switching their channels.
8 passes on each module, on their own DIMM. So 4GB DIMM_1, 8GB DIMM 2 etc...

I did not test them in any random order afterwards.

If an error had shown on an 8GB module I would have no choice but to keep using it.
I need all my RAM tbh, but 4GB’s I don’t care about losing that much.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64Bit
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    PC/Desktop
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    i5 4670K
    Motherboard
    MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
    Memory
    Vengeance 24GB (2x4GB,2x8GB) 1600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 970 G1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 21:9
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 120GB
    Kingston V300 120GB
    Crucial MX300 1TB
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNova P2 750W
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Corsair STRAFE Red
    Mouse
    Razer Deathadder 2013
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    Chrome
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