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Best Virtual Machine software to install Windows 8 DP?


XJLanzaro

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#1
What is the best Virtual Machine software for Windows 7 host os to install W8DP guest os?
 

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NoelDP

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#2
Virtual Box now has support for the WDP.
 

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lehnerus2000

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whs

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I use vBox all the time. But for Win8 I could not get the resolution above 800x600 whilst I get 1680x900 in Ubuntu.

Running from a VHD would be nice, but not possible in Win7 Home Premium.
 

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lehnerus2000

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Ah, I see.

Running from a VHD would be nice, but not possible in Win7 Home Premium.
I didn't realise that (I'm using Ultimate). :eek:
 

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MadHorseman

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Hmmm - VHD works in Vista Home Basic.....

Robin (the other one)
 

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jimbo45

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Hi there
vmware player is very good too since all the probs have been fixed with R4 and W8. 3D support for graphics is built in and I think it tends to be more stable and is easier to set up and use than VBOX. It's also free.

You can even run this on W7 STARTER if you want.

BTW Native booting VHD's should be possible from any version of Windows --there's a tutorial on this over at the Seven Forum.

(I see WHS beat me to this !!!!)

Cheers
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Arpan

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I use vBox all the time. But for Win8 I could not get the resolution above 800x600 whilst I get 1680x900 in Ubuntu.

Running from a VHD would be nice, but not possible in Win7 Home Premium.
:what: I myself use vhd to boot windows 8 rp. I have windows 7 home basic. I have seen in many places that it requires ultimate or enterprise version of windows 7. Strange !!! It works not only for me but many. Can anybody explain?
 

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kizo2703

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I myself use vhd to boot windows 8 rp. I have windows 7 home basic. I have seen in many places that it requires ultimate or enterprise version of windows 7. Strange !!! It works for not only me but many. Can anybody explain?
Yes, but Your Windows 7 is on a physical partition, right?

And Windows 8 is on VHD?

Make a test, try to install Windows 7 HB on VHD.
I bet it won't work!
 

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Arpan

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:p O ho, now understood. It should be something like that. Thanks for the info!!
 

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XJLanzaro

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Thanks you all, I ended up installing Windows 8 on a partition nest to Windows 7 and it runs great.
 

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jryoo

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VMware workstation because it got unity. Works really awesome-ly.
 

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Kebero

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VMWare Workstation is good, but native VHD boot is the best. And for those asking about Win7 compatibility, you're misunderstanding the information. To boot from a VHD, you just need Windows installed on your PC. For a VHD to be bootable, the VHD must be of Windows 7 Ultimate or Enterprise, Windows Server 2008 R2, or Windows 8.
 

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lehnerus2000

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Thanks Kebero

VMWare Workstation is good, but native VHD boot is the best. And for those asking about Win7 compatibility, you're misunderstanding the information. To boot from a VHD, you just need Windows installed on your PC. For a VHD to be bootable, the VHD must be of Windows 7 Ultimate or Enterprise, Windows Server 2008 R2, or Windows 8.
Thanks for that clarification. :)

Why can't MS provide simple concise explanations like yours?
 

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Kebero

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Why can't MS provide simple concise explanations like yours?
Because I'm the person who works in IT as a technician and actually has to explain this ish to end users?
 

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Dark Rider

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Whats The Best VM app to use for Windows 8?

That's Super easy. Parallels Workstation - hands down bar none!

Why? - I'll tell you...

I just spent the past 5 hours trying to get Windows 8 to even install.

In Virtual Box I kept getting this message
VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Certain guests (e.g. OS/2 and QNX) require this feature. Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer
I followed all the instructions on many websites and this one to trouble shoot the problem, because it should worked out of the box.. I do have Hardware Virtualizaqtion in my Bios activated. I even flash updated my bios to the newest version and it didn't help. That took several hours.

Next I tried VMWare. It got a tiny bit further. I got the error screen that said My PC didn't have enough ram to set up the Ram Disk. My PC has 4 gigabytes of ram, and installing windows 8 was the only thing I was doing.. I know I had plenty of ram left over. Again, tried for several hours all the tricks I could find around this problem, nothing worked.

These two problems are the two most common problems people have when trying to install Windows 8 in a virtual machine. Google them and you'll see.. tons of threads on these issues.

Last, I tried Parallels Workstation. I even had Firefox browser open taking up extra ram, and it installed and ran Windows 8 perfectly from the word Go with no errors or problems - and its very fast too.. so fast with my single core PC that I don't even know I'm in a VM.

For me anyway, Parallels Workstation was my savior. You guys can do what you want, but I suggest you give it a try before you waste 5 hours trying to get Windows 8 to install when you see your having trouble. It might just save your butt too. I think their use of VT-x and AMD-v must be better than the other two apps I mentioned.
 
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Hopachi

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Welcome to the forums!
Thanks for confirming this. Good to know Parellells W. works that well Dark Rider. Which version is it (I guess 6)?

VMware Player works perfectly here on x64 Win7. I agree VBox has some bugs and it's good you avoid it because there are some issues with some AMD processors (can be yours, you never know).

I guess some programs work good on some pc hardware and don't work (or pretty bad) on other pc's: it depends on hardware and drivers. It's good that you tested all those virtualisation programs and using the one that works best on your machine is something everyone should do.

VM Player and VBox are free Parallells not, but it has some nice additions (and there is also the Extreme version for newer hardware...)
 

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Dark Rider

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Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah, I have seen people post that VMware worked for them when other VM apps could not.. its just a hardware thing. The version I'm using is Parallels Workstation 6. It's odd that there are so many differences to these programs that some work better than others based on your hardware. For me Parallels is king for windows 8. I was amazed it didn't have any errors at all when the other two balked. I'm using the trial version, just to test a few things. I suppose if one needs to run Win 8 for an extended period of time and Parallels worked for them when others didn't, the app would pay for itself in the long run. I'm actually tempted to buy it anyway for its speed. On my machine, it blows VMWare and Vbox out of the water. I have tested it with a few other Linux distros and PC-BSD and it always the faster of the three.
 

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