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Solved Application Data folder inside Application Data folder


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#1
I am running Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. In the hidden folder "All Users" is a folder named "Application Data". Inside it is a folder named "Application Data". Inside that is yet another folder named "Application Data". This nonsense repeats itself to a depth of 16 folders, all named "Application Data". I cannot remove them. Windows tells me that I have to have permission from myself.

Norton 360 finds no risks or suspicious files on my computer.

Has anyone else had this idiotic problem? What causes it? More importantly, how do I get rid of that "All Users" directory tree altogether? I am the only user on my computer, so I don't need templates or anything else like that.

Thank you in advance for your helpful responses.

Richard
 

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kingtez

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#2
Never seen that before!! judging by the lack of response sounds like its a new one! :)

It does definatly sound virus related in some way.

Malwarebytes in Safemode would find anything there, but wont undo the damaged caused assuming it is a virus of course. The folders would still be there!!

Suppose only way to fully sort that would be a refresh/reset.

Refresh - Maybe
Reset - Defo!
 

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Ztruker

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#3
Application Data is a Junction or Hard Link. It points to AppData. Trying to view it just takes you in a spiral down to nowhere.

This started with Vista ad continues through Windows 8.1 Preview.
 

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arachnaut

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#4
Yes, the links are made to support some older stuff, I think.

Here is an example of the issue:

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


C:\Windows\system32>streams /?


Streams v1.56 - Enumerate alternate NTFS data streams
Copyright (C) 1999-2007 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com


usage: streams [-s] [-d] <file or directory>
-s     Recurse subdirectories
-d     Delete streams




C:\Windows\system32>streams -s -d c:\Users\jim\.


Streams v1.56 - Enumerate alternate NTFS data streams
Copyright (C) 1999-2007 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com


Error opening c:\Users\jim\AppData\Local\Temporary Internet Files:
The system cannot find the file specified.


Error opening c:\Users\jim\AppData\Local\Application Data\Temporary Internet Files:
The system cannot find the file specified.


Error opening c:\Users\jim\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\Temporary Internet Files:
The system cannot find the file specified.


Error opening c:\Users\jim\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Temporary Internet Files:
The system cannot find the file specified.


Error opening c:\Users\jim\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Temporary I
nternet Files:
The system cannot find the file specified.

...
 

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    ... and tons of audio software ...

    I also keep two USB 3 thumb drives (A: and B:) attached with boot recovery and security stuff that I can boot into from BIOS in case of emergency
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Jim, that is exactly what I encountered! Moreover, I was unable to delete anything in the bottom-most directory because the path name was too long for Windows.

So here is what I did to resolve the problem:

  • [*=1]Beginning with the first "Application Data" sub-directory, I renamed it "1"
    [*=1]I renamed the next "Application Data" sub-directory below that "2"
    [*=1]Continuing that process, I renamed all the "Application Data" sub-directories
    [*=1]Now Windows could swallow the path without throwing up all over itself
    [*=1]I opened the bottom-most directory, "16", reset all the file attributes, and deleted all the files
    [*=1]I moved up a directory and removed the now empty "16" subdirectory
    [*=1]I continued doing that until all the offending directories were gone
Problem solved!

Thank you guys for pitching in! Yahowah bless you.

Richard
 
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System One

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    Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit
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    Hand built
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    AMD Phenom II X2
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4A89GTD PRO
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    16 GB
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    ATI Radeon 6870
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    Firefox 22.0
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arachnaut

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#6
Well, I don't think I would delete anything here.
The All Users application data is used when you add a new account and may be used by the current user account.
These junctions are a nuisance, but I think they are harmless.
Perhaps you can safely delete some of them if you are using all-new 64-bit apps, but if you are using a mix of old and newI would just leave this stuff alone.
As an example of something similar, Office 2010 still installs lots of things using the old 8.3 shortnames, for example, the ones that look like this 'C:\Proga~1\Name~2'.
I think when the new OS (ReFS) becomes more popular all these old relics will go away (because some of these are not supported).

When Windows 95 was released, and touted as a 32-bit OS, there was still quite a lot of 16-bit thunking going on.
We should all have 64-bit only apps in our 64-bit Windows, but take a look...

I'm not a Windows programmer, so I don't know how hard it is to port a 32-bit app to a 64-bit app, but I suppose there are a lot of issues...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64-bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom-build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.3 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0
    Memory
    16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (4 banks 4GB DIMM DDR3 8-8-8-24 5-32-12-7 1T 1.5V)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 440
    Sound Card
    Firewire Focusrite Saffire Pro 14
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG W2353V
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 of Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS (2TB ea.);
    1 of Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 (2TB);
    1 of Hitachi Deskstar HDS722020ALA330 (2TB);
    2 of Seagate Desktop ST4000DM000-1F2168 (4TB)
    PSU
    Corsair AX850 Gold
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
    Cooling
    ThermalTake Silent 1156
    Keyboard
    Logitech K520
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    7Mbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Event Studio Precision 6 powered audio monitors;
    Boston Acoustics CS Sub 10 Powered Subwoofer;
    NI Kore controller;
    NI Maschine controller;
    M-Audio Axiom 61 keyboard controller; expression pedal; sustain pedal;

    ... and tons of audio software ...

    I also keep two USB 3 thumb drives (A: and B:) attached with boot recovery and security stuff that I can boot into from BIOS in case of emergency

Ztruker

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#7
I suspect you will end up with problems at some point. As mentioned, Application Data is no longer directory structure (folder tree). Now it simply a link or junction to AppData.

Why do you feel the need to remove them? Ignore Application Data, look in AppData for things.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

dbltapp

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I found this in Win 8.1. The system seems to install copies of program files at each "application data\". A new user profile is just over 2GB. After installing some programs it's over 70GB.
 

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