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idkwia

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I have been using Windows 7 quite happily but I am going to buy a new laptop. I went into my local store thinking I would buy one with Windows 8 but was convinced by an assistant trained by Apple who used to use Windows 7 that OS X was definitely the way to go. He showed me round OS X and I had a play myself and I have to say I was very impressed.

But of course he is an OS X convert, trained by Apple and bound to say it is better. So, in order to add some balance to the argument going on in my head I thought I would ask you guys to tell me why you think that Windows 8 is better than OS X?

PS I had a play with Windows 8 also at the store and was told that the best way to close say a browser when using a touchscreen is to swipe downwards from the top of the screen or use a keyboard shortcut. I was told that pressing the Windows key takes you back to the Start Screen but doesn't actually close the browser. Is this true, I don't mind losing the X in the top right hand corner but is what I was told the new solution, surely not?

I am looking forward to your thoughts guys, especially anyone that has converted from Apple to Microsoft, do these guys exist anywhere?
 

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To actually close the App you drag it down to the lower left corner or swipe in from the left edge, right click and select close.
 

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idkwia

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To actually close the App you drag it down to the lower left corner or swipe in from the left edge, right click and select close.[/QUOT

thank you. by drag do you mean from the touchpad or on the screen? and how do you minimise? can you view 2 pages at once side by side? is the only change in 8.1 the start button? sorry for all the questions.

any thoughts on 8 v OSX?
 

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If you position the cursor in the top center of the screen of a Metro app it will change to a hand. If click and hold the mouse button down you can drag the whole window from one screen to another, or resize it on that screen. If you drag the window down to the lower left corner of the screen the thumbnail will flip over and when you release the button that app will close. If you have a Metro app open and then go to the desktop the Metro app minimizes off screen. If you mouse up to the top left corner a bar will open from that side of the screen with thumbnails for all active Metro Apps. You can then click the one you want to open on that screen. swiping in from the left side of the screen will open the same vertical bar. I don't have a touch screen so I do it all from a touch pad or trackball. I find the edge swipes a pain when using a touch pad as they open when I don't want them to, so I turn them off and just use the hot corners. In Windows 8 with Metro Snap you can put two Metro apps on one screen 50 50 or 1/3 2/3, providing its big enough. In Windows 8.1 you can do more than 2 if your monitor is wide enough. You can also open Metro apps on more than one monitor at a time, which you can't do in 8.0. In Windows 8 Metro Snap will not work on my 1280x1024 4:3 LCD screens, I can only show one app full screen. Now in 8.1 I can put 2 Metro Apps on those monitors and at least 3 on my 1080P main screen. 8.1 was the tipping point for me to switch that PC from Windows 7 to 8.1. All my PC's are running 8 or 8.1 now.
I have never used a Mac or OSX so I can't comment on that.
 

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Wynona

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Macs hate me! I tried to use one and failed miserably.

From the cost perspective alone, I'd go for a PC. Otherwise, it's kind of up to you as to what you want to do. Either one will probably do what you want.
 

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xunile

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Here is a video showing how to have two apps side by side in Windows 8.1

[video=youtube;dlr04tUaLx0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlr04tUaLx0[/video]

Here is a video on how to close an app in Windows 8 or 8.1.

[video=youtube;7NydXw6hS70]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NydXw6hS70[/video]
 

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XweAponX

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OSX is just different, but it acts mroe like Windows used to act under Windows 7. You cannot run "Apps" on OSX, only Programs. Windows 8.x RT acts more like iOS, but iOS has better backgrounding and app switching especially in iOS 7.
 

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caperjack

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i say it depends if you use windows programs now that will not be on os10,dont change if you are only using it to surf the net and email then os10 would work quite nice ,
I AM a long time windows user and use win8 or 8.1 since they both came out .but iam typing this on my macbook os 10.6.8 ,not my first mac but its is the newsest one i have owned ,,the highest i can upgrade it to and when i go to the app store every free app i try cant run on less than os 10.7,i like using it but would not switch to it full time ,i run MS Office for mac ,so that helps a bit with some of the stuff i use it for .
 

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badtyper

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I have used Windows computers for many years, because I bought two iPads I bought an Apple Mac Pro Laptop to sycn files from it to my iPads. Because the Applel O.S. works a lot different from Windows, it has taken me a long time to really feel good about using it. But now that I have a Win8.1 computer, I sure am going to get used to using my Mac. If it's one item that Apple has gotten right, it's their O.S. Take some getting use to if your moving from Windows but it's a solid system.:thumb:
 

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XweAponX

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i say it depends if you use windows programs now that will not be on os10,dont change if you are only using it to surf the net and email then os10 would work quite nice ,
I AM a long time windows user and use win8 or 8.1 since they both came out .but iam typing this on my macbook os 10.6.8 ,not my first mac but its is the newsest one i have owned ,,the highest i can upgrade it to and when i go to the app store every free app i try cant run on less than os 10.7,i like using it but would not switch to it full time ,i run MS Office for mac ,so that helps a bit with some of the stuff i use it for .

Frustrating, innit? I have a Dual G5 Titanium Tower, the highest I can get in there is 10.5.8. Plus it requires PPC programs, which are hard to find now. There are a few devs though, that allow for people using G3's through G5s. In my opinion, Motorolas are MUCH better processors than Intels.

Going to Intel was a huge Mistake. Intels are CISC processors, and G3'4'5s are RISC. Its why those old Motorola Apples, when running at 800 mHz, it seemed like 2 GHz Intel CPU speed. And NONE of my Motorola Based PPCs ever do that "Intel White Out"
 

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pparks1

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Well, the price difference is rather significant. You also have to find different apps for a variety of things. If you are a gamer, you won't have nearly the choices on the Mac.
 

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whs

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Tough question. If you have the money and like new adventures, Apple may be an alternative. But you would live on an island with far less applications than in the Windows or Linux world.

I personally still prefer Windows 7 followed by Linux Mint Mate. I have Windows 8.1 too but no touchscreen for which it was really designed. If you properly tune it with a couple of cheap OEM products, it is OK.

I also don't like these full screen apps. I close them with ALT+F4. Over time, Windows 8 and the apps store may get better. For now though it is best to run it like Windows 7.
 

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The Problem with RT Apps are the lack of the same apps you use on Desktop, otherwise an RT tablet would be a good option.

In four years, they may have the same apps I have on my iPhone, so I'll check back then.
 

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