What's new

Anybody else tired of hearing these lame Win 8 complaints?

strollin

Old Guys Rule!
VIP Member
Pro User
Virtually everyday I run across a post in a forum or a news article that complains about Win 8 and how the user does not want a phone/tablet OS on their desktop/laptop. IMO, this complaint is totally without merit.

I don't understand why those people can't accept that it is a DUAL PURPOSE OS, for those that want to use the features that are phone/tablet like they are there to be used or for those that prefer the desktop, it's available too. It's very similar to having a dual boot setup except that you don't need to reboot in order to switch between the two interfaces.

Instead of whining about it, accept that the two interfaces are there and deal with it. I use my Win 8 laptop everyday using the desktop and have not encountered any issues with that, Win 8 is like a very capable OS. I can switch back and forth between my desktop with Win 7 and my laptop with Win 8 and run the same suite of apps on both. For those that absolutely need the Start button, there are 3rd party apps that can be applied to bring it back.

Then there are those that whine that Win 8 is unusable on a non-touch screen. Baloney! I have been using Win 8 since the first customer preview on various machines, none of which have a touch screen and it is perfectly usable with a mouse/keyboard (yes, even the Start screen). I have never owned a computer with a touchscreen (and probably never will) but have tried them in stores and find that, instead of making things easier, the touchscreen makes using the OS laborious due to having to constantly lift my arm and make gross arm movements instead of making small hand movements to accomplish the same thing with a mouse.

My only real complaint with Win 8 is the "Metro" or "Modern" apps. I personally haven't found one of these apps that I would want to use on a daily basis so, instead of whining about it, I simply don't use any of them.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built i7-8700K, Hp Envy x360 EVO Laptop, MS Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    3.7Ghz Core i7-8700K, 11th Gen Core i7-1165G7 4.7Ghz, 10th Gen Core™ i5-1035G4 1.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming, HP, MS
    Memory
    16G, 8G, 8G
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX580, Intel Iris X Graphics, Intel Iris Plus Graphics G4
    Sound Card
    ATI High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Samsung U32J59 32 inch monitors, 13.3" display, 12.3" display
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 (Desktop), 1920x1080 (laptop), 2736x1824 Pro 7
    Hard Drives
    500GB ssd boot drive with 2 & 10TB Data (Desktop), 512GB ssd (laptop), 128GB SSD (tablet)
    PSU
    Corsair CX 750M
    Case
    Antec 100
    Cooling
    Coolermaster CM 212+
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
    Mouse
    Microsoft IntelliMouse
    Internet Speed
    665Mbps/15Mbps down/up
    Browser
    FireFox, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender on all
    Other Info
    Retired in 2015 after working in the tech industry for 41 years. First 10 years as a Technician, the rest as a programmer/software engineer. After 1 year of retirement, I was bored so went back to work as a Robotic Process Automation Consultant. Retired for 3rd (and final) time in 2019.

davehc

New Member
Pro User
I agree wholeheartedly, with one correction! I think you could say it is a tri purpose OS - with or without touchscreen. If a user only wants to be in the desktop mode, it isn't a fantastic improvement from Windows 7, but certainly not worth all the whining.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Use several different computers during a day, so specs are irrelevant.

strollin

Old Guys Rule!
VIP Member
Pro User
Yes. I tell those that ask my advice that Win 8 isn't a compelling upgrade from Win 7 but there's also no reason to avoid buying a new computer that comes with it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built i7-8700K, Hp Envy x360 EVO Laptop, MS Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    3.7Ghz Core i7-8700K, 11th Gen Core i7-1165G7 4.7Ghz, 10th Gen Core™ i5-1035G4 1.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming, HP, MS
    Memory
    16G, 8G, 8G
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX580, Intel Iris X Graphics, Intel Iris Plus Graphics G4
    Sound Card
    ATI High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Samsung U32J59 32 inch monitors, 13.3" display, 12.3" display
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 (Desktop), 1920x1080 (laptop), 2736x1824 Pro 7
    Hard Drives
    500GB ssd boot drive with 2 & 10TB Data (Desktop), 512GB ssd (laptop), 128GB SSD (tablet)
    PSU
    Corsair CX 750M
    Case
    Antec 100
    Cooling
    Coolermaster CM 212+
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
    Mouse
    Microsoft IntelliMouse
    Internet Speed
    665Mbps/15Mbps down/up
    Browser
    FireFox, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender on all
    Other Info
    Retired in 2015 after working in the tech industry for 41 years. First 10 years as a Technician, the rest as a programmer/software engineer. After 1 year of retirement, I was bored so went back to work as a Robotic Process Automation Consultant. Retired for 3rd (and final) time in 2019.

mdmd

Closed as requested
My only real complaint with Win 8 is the "Metro" or "Modern" apps. I personally haven't found one of these apps that I would want to use on a daily basis so, instead of whining about it, I simply don't use any of them.

I use metro: ie, netflix, news, iheart radio, weather, daily motion, vevo, FilmOn Live TV, etc ... every day.

... and newegg, mahjong, minesweeper, music maker jam, pinball fx2 and toms hardware occasionally.

At this point, with the 8.1 Preview, Netflix will not launch a video in ie 11 on the desktop, one must use the metro app. My experience anyway.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

strollin

Old Guys Rule!
VIP Member
Pro User
I prefer running YouTube and Netflix type of services in FireFox from the desktop. The web page of both those services is much more user friendly and usable than the apps are.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built i7-8700K, Hp Envy x360 EVO Laptop, MS Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    3.7Ghz Core i7-8700K, 11th Gen Core i7-1165G7 4.7Ghz, 10th Gen Core™ i5-1035G4 1.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming, HP, MS
    Memory
    16G, 8G, 8G
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX580, Intel Iris X Graphics, Intel Iris Plus Graphics G4
    Sound Card
    ATI High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Samsung U32J59 32 inch monitors, 13.3" display, 12.3" display
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 (Desktop), 1920x1080 (laptop), 2736x1824 Pro 7
    Hard Drives
    500GB ssd boot drive with 2 & 10TB Data (Desktop), 512GB ssd (laptop), 128GB SSD (tablet)
    PSU
    Corsair CX 750M
    Case
    Antec 100
    Cooling
    Coolermaster CM 212+
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
    Mouse
    Microsoft IntelliMouse
    Internet Speed
    665Mbps/15Mbps down/up
    Browser
    FireFox, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender on all
    Other Info
    Retired in 2015 after working in the tech industry for 41 years. First 10 years as a Technician, the rest as a programmer/software engineer. After 1 year of retirement, I was bored so went back to work as a Robotic Process Automation Consultant. Retired for 3rd (and final) time in 2019.

mdmd

Closed as requested
I prefer running YouTube and Netflix type of services in FireFox from the desktop. The web page of both those services is much more user friendly and usable than the apps are.

Yes, just preference. I like the metro app full screen focus and auto pause when doing something else. Our experience (and preference) is different. Windowing video or game apps is annoying to me, ... when I launch a video, my preference is to do one thing at a time (watch the video). It is still possible to snap a video app (or other app) and continue to do something on the desktop.

If I watch a video, I usually go full screen anyway. What about those lame complaints?

Screenshot (12).jpg

Screenshot (13).jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

XweAponX

New Member
VIP Member
Pro User
Everything just works better from the Desktop anyway, all browsers work better. For instance, if yo use the IE Tile, and you want to add a photo, it brings up the Start Screen search, instead of File Explorer, and it's LAME. I can't FIND what I'm looking for my pressing the first letter of the filename like I can do in Explorer. So to hell with it, I don't use the IE tile anymore. I don't use the Chrome tile either, same complaint. I'd rather not switch from being able to find the things I need to attach to NOT being able to find the things I want to attach. Or, download locations, I don't always use the Download folder, I like to choose the location sometimes. The Tile versions of Browsers will not let me do that as easily. If I can find a way to totally remove Metro I will.

Not to mention there is NOT one app that can increase my productivity. Ironically, I have about ten iOS apps that can connect right to my PC and manipulate files on it, even stream video straight over. There are none of these for Windows 8. VLC? Nope, not for Windows 8 Tile. But there are plenty of fake apps that cost 10 bucks apiece and not worth the time to install them or the money.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

mdmd

Closed as requested
Everything just works better from the Desktop anyway, all browsers work better.

Your preference, ok. A windowed browser must be minimized or resized to run something else usually, and zoom factors can vary. On the desktop, one must always move, resize or minimize a browser to multitask.

For instance, if you use the IE Tile, and you want to add a photo, it brings up the Start Screen search, instead of File Explorer, and it's LAME. I can't FIND what I'm looking for my pressing the first letter of the filename like I can do in Explorer.

The start screen search is for apps, not files. It has been updated in 8.1

81search.jpg

If I can find a way to totally remove Metro I will.

With 8.1, you are one step closer. You can disable the top corners (edge UI and charms) with navigation options, and all corners with classic shell and others. Auto boot to desktop, the Winkey brings up whatever start menu you like.

The start screen can also be disabled (not used) in navigation options.

81navigation.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

XweAponX

New Member
VIP Member
Pro User
The amount of grievous problems I've seen with 8.1 will keep me running 8 for a while.

I'm saying, when you are in a Webpage on Tile IE10. You want to upload an image, so you clock in "Browse for File" - THAT's the search I'm talking about. It's bad, very bad. It will bring up your 'Documents" folder in a blue area above the Web Page Frame. It is VERY difficult to find what you are looking for, because 1) The tiles are all the same size and can't be changed 2) they are not laid out like they are in Explorer, so even if you know the exact name of the file, it's VERY hard to find.
'
I'd make a screenshot, but I don't wanna go back to IE10 tile, it took 15 minutes to set it up so it worked like that. It only takes seconds to make it work as a tile in Chrome, you hit "Relaunch Chrome in Windows 8 Mode" and BOOM it opens up instantly.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

SIW2

Well-Known Member
Team Member
You seem to be looking at it from a purely personal perspective.

For some of us, it is a discussion about marketing, or if you like, the world at large. Here we can see some very major shifts in an important industry. It is fascinating to watch what the players are doing. It is also interesting to see how little most people understand, and how big corporations try and manipulate the consumers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

mdmd

Closed as requested
I'm saying, when you are in a Webpage on Tile IE10. You want to upload an image, so you clock in "Browse for File" - THAT's the search I'm talking about. It's bad, very bad. It will bring up your 'Documents" folder in a blue area above the Web Page Frame. It is VERY difficult to find what you are looking for, because 1) The tiles are all the same size and can't be changed 2) they are not laid out like they are in Explorer, so even if you know the exact name of the file, it's VERY hard to find.

I don't see the difficulty. Maybe because it's easy for me.

Screenshot (14).jpg

Screenshot (17).jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

XweAponX

New Member
VIP Member
Pro User
I still am having trouble convincing people to give 8 a try, they don't understand that the desktop is still there, when they look at the Tiles-> they run! Then they ask me to install Windows 7.

But as far as I'm concerned, I love Windows 8, the desktop - It's a huge improvement for me despite losing the transparency. I hate to say but most people are like me, they have no use for the Start Screen.

Now, I realize there is that "Split Screen" mode where you can have two tiles running at once, but that's not enough. If we are to get full use of Tile apps, then these tiles should stay TSR until shut down. When I move from one to the other, I should not have to wait for them to reload each time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

Tepid

Vapor
Power User
what are the major number of complaints?

Touchscreen interface.

Yet, the system runs fine and is perfectly usable with Keyboard and Mouse and touch
Most people I have talk to have heard how horrible Win8 is, but haven't even given it much more than a glance
because of that, Win8 has gotten a bad rap from others who just don't like it, or don't want to like it.

There is no good reason not to buy a PC with Win8 on it. Not one good reason.

You can just as easily say, The vast majority of people don't actually know if they want a PC (Windows Laptop or Tablet) with touch or not.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS

XweAponX

New Member
VIP Member
Pro User
I'm saying, when you are in a Webpage on Tile IE10. You want to upload an image, so you clock in "Browse for File" - THAT's the search I'm talking about. It's bad, very bad. It will bring up your 'Documents" folder in a blue area above the Web Page Frame. It is VERY difficult to find what you are looking for, because 1) The tiles are all the same size and can't be changed 2) they are not laid out like they are in Explorer, so even if you know the exact name of the file, it's VERY hard to find.

I don't see the difficulty. Maybe because it's easy for me.

View attachment 26302

View attachment 26303

Is's not though. I have hundreds of items in each of my Library folders. That search screen is ridiculous, I can do it quicker from the Desktop and File Explorer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

Tepid

Vapor
Power User
I'm saying, when you are in a Webpage on Tile IE10. You want to upload an image, so you clock in "Browse for File" - THAT's the search I'm talking about. It's bad, very bad. It will bring up your 'Documents" folder in a blue area above the Web Page Frame. It is VERY difficult to find what you are looking for, because 1) The tiles are all the same size and can't be changed 2) they are not laid out like they are in Explorer, so even if you know the exact name of the file, it's VERY hard to find.

I don't see the difficulty. Maybe because it's easy for me.

View attachment 26302

View attachment 26303

Is's not though. I have hundreds of items in each of my Library folders. That search screen is ridiculous, I can do it quicker from the Desktop and File Explorer.

Because that is what you are use to. It's what you have been doing for years.
Think about it... if things went the other way, you would be saying the same thing. I can say, that is a fact.
Try doing it with the interface for a couple of years only and then come back and say how you feel. I can say with confidence, you won't. Or, you will say it doesn't matter, cause you learned the new way of doing it and it works just fine for you.

Because by that time, that is what you will be used to doing.

It has a lot less to do with the interface and everything with what we are used to.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS

mdmd

Closed as requested
I still am having trouble convincing people to give 8 a try, they don't understand that the desktop is still there, when they look at the Tiles-> they run! Then they ask me to install Windows 7.

But as far as I'm concerned, I love Windows 8, the desktop - It's a huge improvement for me despite losing the transparency. I hate to say but most people are like me, they have no use for the Start Screen.

Now, I realize there is that "Split Screen" mode where you can have two tiles running at once, but that's not enough. If we are to get full use of Tile apps, then these tiles should stay TSR until shut down. When I move from one to the other, I should not have to wait for them to reload each time.

I can understand why they might find it a challenge.

Tile apps do stay in memory, if one has not disabled the edge UI, they can be multitasked.

ss81.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

mdmd

Closed as requested
It's not though. I have hundreds of items in each of my Library folders. That search screen is ridiculous, I can do it quicker from the Desktop and File Explorer.

ok. It can be quicker from the Desktop or File Explorer.

... also ... There is a minimize button on the bottom right corner for alphabetical listing.

Screenshot (20).jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Server 2012 / 8.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7 QuadCore 3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Extreme 4
    Memory
    16GB Crucial Ballistix
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel embedded gpu
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC / Westinghouse
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Plextor pcie msata
    PSU
    Rosewill Silent Night 500W Fanless / PicoPSU
    Case
    open bench - no case enclosure
    Cooling
    Silverstone HEO2 Passive Silent
    Keyboard
    logitech washable K310
    Mouse
    logitech wired
    Browser
    ie / maxthon
    Other Info
    Totally silent. No fans at all.

Windunce

New Member
Member
Are questions complaints?

I would love to use the Modern/Metro interface exclusively.
But it is not, nor do I believe it will EVER BE ready for prime time.

Let me pose a question about a simple OS task using the Modern interface.

How do I browse hidden folders?

Answers anyone???

Didn't think so :(

So when the answers to these simple BASIC questions are....IT CAN'T BE DONE,
complaints follow. The main 'complaint?' being....don't release ALPHA software.
The Modern interface is ALPHA software....thus far.

Modern/Metro should not have shipped [or should have shipped separately as a tablet OS]
until it mirrored the feature set of the Desktop OS.

I've no complaints about 8 Desktop OS or Blue Desktop OS, other than the
deprecation of some of the older features that shipped with Windows 7.

Microsoft did a great job on the DESKTOP OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7-8 Dual Boot on a Commodore 64

Jf1450

New Member
Member
Nope, not tired at all.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Mint and Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus G75VW
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    Asus
    Memory
    16G
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate 5400 rpm 1T and Seagate 7200 rpm 500G.
    Internet Speed
    30M down, 5M up
    Other Info
    Oracle Virtual Box
    Ubuntu 64 bit

pparks1

Well-Known Member
VIP Member
Guru
I was called over by my neighbor over the weekend because her home desktop PC had been having some issues and she knew that I worked on computers for a living.

Long story short, I believe that her computer had been hit by some drive by malware and it wreaked havoc on the system in general. She ended up taking it to a local computer shop who diagnosed her with a failing hard drive as well as so many problems with Windows that a reinstall of the OS was in order. She went ahead and did this, and when she had problems immediately after getting home she called me over.

So, in talking with her, she was offered Windows 8 by the computer shop, but she declined as she had "read so many bad things about it". This is pretty sad, as she doesn't really know much about computers at all, and the computer shop didn't try to argue with her quick assessment at all. Instead, they went ahead and installed "vista" back onto the machine...which is what it had right from the factory.

So, while many of us might be tired of hearing about what consumers want and what they don't want...the bottom line is that Microsoft is missing out on sales because of perception. As I explained to my neighbor, with a few key changes you could make Windows 8 look and run just like 7 (or Vista). But even then, there are aspects that some might find annoying, like some settings in the Charms bar with other settings in the Control Panel. These complaints, to me, are justifiable since they do impact the users and so many do seem to care about them.

At the end of the day, I think Windows 8 is a solid system, but I don't remotely use it in it's tablet-esque form, and I don't utilize Metro at all. I've taken measures to work around those "features". Whenever I discuss Windows 8 with friends, family, etc...It's always "windows 8 is fine, but.....". It's always explained with a laundry list of exceptions...so it's far from exceptional as far as I am concerned. I used to wholeheartedly recommend Windows 7 without question.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top