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Do you plan to use third-party antivirus and firewall?

View Poll Results: Do you plan to install third-party antivirus and firewall?

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  • Third party antivirus, Windows 8 firewall

    30 17.96%
  • Windows 8 antivirus, Third-party firewall

    5 2.99%
  • Third party antivirus and firewall

    44 26.35%
  • Windows 8 antivirus and firewall

    88 52.69%
  1. #21


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Ismail View Post
    Hey Mike.

    That was what I'm about to say
    I was a big fan of ZA while running Win XP. Started from Win 7 ZA had severe compatibility issue. Then I moved to Comodo that have compatible version with Win 7. Then when WDP started, comodo was left with compatibility issue, again.

    Well. Starting with WDP I really haven't install any firewall yet.

    Kevin
    Kevin? Forget about Windows 8 DP, unless you're using the tools to write programs with, there has been 2 updates since it came out. CP (Consumers Preview), and now we are working with RP (Release Preview).

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  2. #22


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Kevin? I suggest for FireWall duties you go with ZoneAlarm. They have a couple free versions one with, and one without anti-virus.
    ZA has always been a strong FW since it was introduced, and gets some of the highest rating from all corners of security, and various magazines. (I.E. PCMag, MPC, Windows Mag, etc.).

    ***EDIT*** Just finished talking to Tom over at ZA's website, THEY aren't even in the Alpha stage of a version of ZA for Windows 8 yet..Sheesh.
    I used ZA when it first came out. It was fund to play with, but I fail to see how that sort of firewall would protect you if your system was compromised by malware.
    Cly? You don't install it on a system that has already been compromised. You would install a firewall on a clean system, EVEN before you run Microsoft updates. Cly? if your system is still infected in some manner, I would suggest you to do a HARD format, and reinstall Windows 8RP. To preform one, you go into your BIOS, then to the hardware tools, and format Hard Drive(s). BUT before you do that, GET an accounting of the disk size. (bytes & sectors) When you do a hard format, the entire disk is erased, including bad sectors, partitions, file format, the entire shebang. Would be best if you installed that hard drive, to use the CD/DVD included with it, to put it back to factory specs. Some BIOS include with them, auto-detect and can put your hard drive back, BUT like I said, get an accounting of the drive.
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  3. #23


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Though I'm currently with WRP but Haven't really tried any firewall. Comodo is fine with my Win 7, but sometimes it's bugging me a lot with so many pop up asking for program clearance.

    Kevin
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  4. #24


    Posts : 106
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Kevin? I suggest for FireWall duties you go with ZoneAlarm. They have a couple free versions one with, and one without anti-virus.
    ZA has always been a strong FW since it was introduced, and gets some of the highest rating from all corners of security, and various magazines. (I.E. PCMag, MPC, Windows Mag, etc.).

    ***EDIT*** Just finished talking to Tom over at ZA's website, THEY aren't even in the Alpha stage of a version of ZA for Windows 8 yet..Sheesh.
    I used ZA when it first came out. It was fund to play with, but I fail to see how that sort of firewall would protect you if your system was compromised by malware.
    Cly? You don't install it on a system that has already been compromised. You would install a firewall on a clean system, EVEN before you run Microsoft updates. Cly? if your system is still infected in some manner, I would suggest you to do a HARD format, and reinstall Windows 8RP. To preform one, you go into your BIOS, then to the hardware tools, and format Hard Drive(s). BUT before you do that, GET an accounting of the disk size. (bytes & sectors) When you do a hard format, the entire disk is erased, including bad sectors, partitions, file format, the entire shebang. Would be best if you installed that hard drive, to use the CD/DVD included with it, to put it back to factory specs. Some BIOS include with them, auto-detect and can put your hard drive back, BUT like I said, get an accounting of the drive.
    How does a firewall prevent your system from being compromised by a malware that you inadvertently download and install?
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  5. #25


    Sydney Australia
    Posts : 2,941
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit


    I use Avast internet Security (paid version) on all my computers and find that it does everything that I want it do do and does not seem to slow my computers.
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  6. #26


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post

    I used ZA when it first came out. It was fund to play with, but I fail to see how that sort of firewall would protect you if your system was compromised by malware.
    Cly? You don't install it on a system that has already been compromised. You would install a firewall on a clean system, EVEN before you run Microsoft updates. Cly? if your system is still infected in some manner, I would suggest you to do a HARD format, and reinstall Windows 8RP. To preform one, you go into your BIOS, then to the hardware tools, and format Hard Drive(s). BUT before you do that, GET an accounting of the disk size. (bytes & sectors) When you do a hard format, the entire disk is erased, including bad sectors, partitions, file format, the entire shebang. Would be best if you installed that hard drive, to use the CD/DVD included with it, to put it back to factory specs. Some BIOS include with them, auto-detect and can put your hard drive back, BUT like I said, get an accounting of the drive.
    How does a firewall prevent your system from being compromised by a malware that you inadvertently download and install?
    It DOESN'T I had assumed you had gotten drive by infections, not that you, yourself placed them onto your computer. In this case scenario, I would then suggest you get the paid version of Norton 360 version 6. With that you would be BLOCKED by a full screen message that is telling you of the dangers.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 106
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post

    Cly? You don't install it on a system that has already been compromised. You would install a firewall on a clean system, EVEN before you run Microsoft updates. Cly? if your system is still infected in some manner, I would suggest you to do a HARD format, and reinstall Windows 8RP. To preform one, you go into your BIOS, then to the hardware tools, and format Hard Drive(s). BUT before you do that, GET an accounting of the disk size. (bytes & sectors) When you do a hard format, the entire disk is erased, including bad sectors, partitions, file format, the entire shebang. Would be best if you installed that hard drive, to use the CD/DVD included with it, to put it back to factory specs. Some BIOS include with them, auto-detect and can put your hard drive back, BUT like I said, get an accounting of the drive.
    How does a firewall prevent your system from being compromised by a malware that you inadvertently download and install?
    It DOESN'T I had assumed you had gotten drive by infections, not that you, yourself placed them onto your computer. In this case scenario, I would then suggest you get the paid version of Norton 360 version 6. With that you would be BLOCKED by a full screen message that is telling you of the dangers.
    I want a firewall that prevents unwanted connections from the Internet, which MS firewall does nicely. My point is that Zone alarm type firewalls that go to great pains to prevent programs on your machine from accessing the internet, which I think is useless and a waste of time because any sophisticated trojan that has already compromised your system gets around that pretty easily. (MS firewall can also be configured to filter outbound connections by a program but but it's very difficult to set up).

    As I said, I first used Zonealarm in 2001 or so, but after playing around with it for a while I came to realize that it's not all that useful. If you can point to some uses for a firewall other than the built-in Windows firewall I would love to know about it.

    And by the way, given that most of us download and install dozens of third-party apps, that should be a huge point of concern. Firewalls can give a false sense of security because it give an option to block third party apps from accessing the internet. If those apps have malware worth its salt, they can get around the firewall pretty easily.
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  8. #28


    Sydney, AU
    Posts : 27
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview


    They said Windows Defender was updated for Windows 8 to be like MSE so I use it, but Windows Defender was poor in Windows 7. I have always used the default Windows Firewall.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Personally I am using various security solutions. First was Norton 360, and now am using Bull Guard. (Beta testing went live yesterday) I'm liking Bull Guard, nicer interface than Norton 360. BUT pretty looks aren't what counts, it's how the product works.
    Bull Guard gave me permission to let Windows 8 know if I find any problems with their product & Windows 8.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Back to the subject at hand Cly, if YOU want total protection, you should ONLY use a software firewall in conjunction with a hardware firewall. Basic hardware firewalls can be found with most routers. And even so with a hardware router, you need to remember to get new rules when they become available. I, myself find being paranoid helps to keep the bad guys off my systems. I said that because I also have a Cisco hardware firewall too. Internet >>> Router FW >>> Hardware Firewall >>> Software Firewall. And each of them are locked differently so that anyone that ACTUALLY wanted to break into my network, would be driven insane trying to figure out my thought pattern for each of them. And NOW with touchscreen lockouts of the system. I have added a hand motion control motion to get passed the Windows 8 screen.
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