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Do you plan to use third-party antivirus and firewall?

View Poll Results: Do you plan to install third-party antivirus and firewall?

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  • Third party antivirus, Windows 8 firewall

    30 17.96%
  • Windows 8 antivirus, Third-party firewall

    5 2.99%
  • Third party antivirus and firewall

    44 26.35%
  • Windows 8 antivirus and firewall

    88 52.69%
  1. #131


    Posts : 20
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Comodo Firewall + Avast Free + Malwarebytes + Common Sense.

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  2. #132


    India
    Posts : 25
    Windows 8.1 Professional Update 1 x64, Arch Linux


    Excuse me but isn't Microsoft Security Essentials now Windows Defender and that there is no MSE for Windows 8?
    I personally think Windows Defender + Windows firewall is enough and there is no need for third-party apps which most of the times slow down windows systems.
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  3. #133


    Posts : 419
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Ednan View Post
    Excuse me but isn't Microsoft Security Essentials now Windows Defender and that there is no MSE for Windows 8?
    That's correct for Windows 8 (MSE remains MSE on Windows 7 and prior). An update came in via Windows Update during I think was the Consumer Preview or late Developer Preview (if I remember correctly) that hardblocked MSE from being installed as Windows Defender (MSE rebranded) was being hardcoded into the OS itself.
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  4. #134


    Quote Originally Posted by Ednan View Post
    Excuse me but isn't Microsoft Security Essentials now Windows Defender and that there is no MSE for Windows 8?
    I personally think Windows Defender + Windows firewall is enough and there is no need for third-party apps which most of the times slow down windows systems.
    Hello Ednan. Welcome to EightForums. Good to have you.

    You're absolutely correct. Jumbo's summation in an earlier post explains it all. To quote that:

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Absolutely not -- why bother since the new way Ms incorporates W8 security is actually in the KERNEL code and not via an API -- and MS aren't going to release Windows kernel Source code to 3rd party developers.

    For HOME developers forget everything you ever read about Windows security on previous releases on Windows. On W8 the basic security (MSE enhanced from W7 and renamed back to Windows defender) is far far better and 100% better than any of the (Usually IMO rubbish) 3rd party security products out there designed for HOME computers.

    Corporate computers are a different ballgame but my post is directed to HOME users.

    For Home computers it's GAME OVER for kapersky, Symantec, Norton, anti-malwarebytes etc etc.

    Don't bother responding to this post by saying XXX review regards YYY as the best -- since these reviews are always AT LEAST one month (often more) out of date and everybody knows that a new virus can appear AT ANY TIME.

    And as usual NEVER EVER EVER believe anything put out by that 100% rubbish organisation known as Gartner -- why people even READ their B/S is beyond me as all their predictions are about on par with RANDOM GUESSING and sometimes worse.

    The best defence of course is still YOURSELF.

    (Just as an afterthought -- Ms WANTS W8 to succeed -- so if any viruses are reported back to MS they will patch / fix them immediately -- they have the source code of course. Other vendors will by necessity take longer as they will have to "Reverse Engineer" the MS patches --there's no decent API now for adding virus detection for 3rd party developers).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #135


    I have win 8 firewall running and the hardware firewall in my router
    I don't see the need to add anything else
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  6. #136


    delete double post lol
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  7. #137


    England
    Posts : 3
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for the thread and poll, Cly.

    Personally I see no need to use 3rd party anything. I've always avoided it as much as possible. Most are just plain crap, although some are good. I believe it creates bugs and problems that isn't worth the effort. I have collected a few through trial and error over the years, though. I trust them and their creators. One is a registry cleaner and another a history cleaner.

    In this case, Windows Defender and the Firewall are written efficiently and do not use too much resource, for they run in the background. I've looked at some machines that ran 3rd party antivirus that bogs them down incredibly. Like an inch worm up a branch! I recomended the owners to download M$ Security Essentials which helped quite a bit. Of course this depends on how much mem one has.

    Also, I've heard that Windows Defender isn't as quick at updating definitions verses others, but I'll take the chances on a day or so.

    Of course professional programs that one may need and install are a completely different story. They are written efficiently for they would not be in business for long.
    Sorry had to laugh when you said "Registry Cleaner" that is why you should stay well away from registry cleaners, if your going to mess with the registry, do it manually, or leave it be.
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  8. #138


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    BitDefender works well for me on 8.
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  9. #139


    Quote Originally Posted by Karl JR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for the thread and poll, Cly.

    Personally I see no need to use 3rd party anything. I've always avoided it as much as possible. Most are just plain crap, although some are good. I believe it creates bugs and problems that isn't worth the effort. I have collected a few through trial and error over the years, though. I trust them and their creators. One is a registry cleaner and another a history cleaner.

    In this case, Windows Defender and the Firewall are written efficiently and do not use too much resource, for they run in the background. I've looked at some machines that ran 3rd party antivirus that bogs them down incredibly. Like an inch worm up a branch! I recomended the owners to download M$ Security Essentials which helped quite a bit. Of course this depends on how much mem one has.

    Also, I've heard that Windows Defender isn't as quick at updating definitions verses others, but I'll take the chances on a day or so.

    Of course professional programs that one may need and install are a completely different story. They are written efficiently for they would not be in business for long.
    Sorry had to laugh when you said "Registry Cleaner" that is why you should stay well away from registry cleaners, if your going to mess with the registry, do it manually, or leave it be.
    Welcome to EightForums, Karl JR.

    CCleaner (free version) is well-proven good maintenance software for temp files and registry cleaner. I know some members here recommend it greatly. Brink (admin) has a thread on it and posts when updates are available.
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  10. #140


    Posts : 49
    win 7, 8.1, Ubuntu


    I voted for Windows 8 firewall and AV and now I find this Microsoft Fails AV-Test Certification , is this legit or is this BS ?
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