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    Before asking "What's the best AV" look at the above links.

    Your choice for an Anti-Virus is the MOST IMPORTANT choice you'll make for your systems security so choose well and thoughtfully.

    The choice of AV is a question of preference, habits, amount of protection needed(Basic versus Advanced), resource use(how much RAM do you have & which generation CPU do you have, can you run it in the background without your system freezing up), and of course money(free or paid).

    Some people like an AV with an user interface that that has all the "bells & whistles" to look at and set(so they know it's running) like telling them every tracking cookie on their system(not really needed, they'll be back the next time you visit a/the site), others "like me" just want it to run in the background(set & forget) until it finds a real threat. This is what I mean by preference.

    For Basic verses Advanced, I mean one needs added protection when doing online money transactions(then you'll probably need to get a paid version).

    Another thing to look at, when choosing an AV, is their "False Positives" rate. This was brought to my attention through a Security News posting from A Guy(Thanks for always keeping us informed Bill). If you follow the link, it will explain why this is very important under "Why Does It Matter?".

    As a last note, sometimes a 3rd party AV will conflict with Windows Updates so if you start seeing a problem, you'll need to go to your AV's website to get more information at their forums and sometimes wait until they have corrected the problem and update the AV. For example:
    Summary:Avira has sent out a defective antivirus update that is causing paid versions of its product to block critical Windows processes and third-party software, effectively rendering millions of PCs unusable.
    Source ZDNet
    This is not new from 2010:
    PCs running Windows XP have been brought to a standstill worldwide after McAfee VirusScan Enterprise issued a false positive
    Source techweekeurope
    Last edited by Cliff S; 19 Apr 2015 at 03:02. Reason: added paragraph about false positives

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    The best defence which I think is the Common Sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueelvis View Post
    The best defence which I think is the Common Sense.
    The problem is many lack or don't use it. The world has become like that Queen song "I want it all... I want it all... and I WANT IT NOW!!!", and that is exactly what those social engineering black hats want people to be. Defender is good enough for most things, but even I have started using Malwarebyte Anti-Exploit to protect against drive-by's even respected site are not that safe with Malvertising using Googles Double-click, in such a case common sense isn't going to protect.
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    From top 5, 4 offer a free version, so recommending an alternative to Windows Defender's 84% is easy.
    What I find odd, that Quihoo 360 uses Avira's and Bitdefender's realtime engine and yet it scores lower.
    But then again, by default, they are not activated and those tests usually test default setup, not maximum.
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    It's like all the Defender bashing. Windows built in security is much much more than that. there's also UAC & Smart Screen Filter now, also in IE11 there's Smart Screen, with the right choices Tracking Protection, Active X filtering, Enhanced Protected Mode, and starting with windows 8, Enable 64bit processes for Enhanced Protected Mode, and there's Block Unsecure Images for mixed content( has to do with using HTTPS). The problem is there is no user manual on windows for all the security, and (typical Microsoft) it's scattered all over their site. What they need is a checklist type of UI for security with ALL these items in on place, with mouse over explanations. When I use all this (which does reduce IE's usability somewhat) is my system truly protected as good as the best 3rd party AV. Most power users know these, but the media users don't even know they exists, let alone how to set them.

    The thing with using a good AV is- after the first initial full scan after installing, you really don't have to do it ever again if it's real-time protection is turned on, because anything coming in will be scanned automatically. And if something does slip through(no AV is 100%) there are enough good malware cleaners. I personally use Malwarebytes right-click to check downloaded files I'm not absolutely sure about(ie..a theme from Deviant Art or the latest Windows 10 ISOs from MEGA).
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    Trnava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Windows built in security is much much more than that.
    I know, that I what I solemnly rely on, but by default it is all disabled for an user convenience.
    UAC by default is a joke just like Windows Defender and besides hardly anyone uses IE today.

    Basic security would be : Do not open email attachments, do not open emails in HTML.
    But like 99% people have real life issues and do not take computer security as priority.
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    [QUOTE=TairikuOkami;493607]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    But like 99% people have real life issues and do not take computer security as priority.
    Don't I know that. I helped a friend speed up his stock ASUS laptop, he's the type that doesn't care as long as he can surf, and found he had the bundled AV turned on that came with the PC 4 years ago(had only a 3 month test) and he visited porn sites and shopping sites and used Yahoo(known to be a security risk), and to my astonishment he had absolutely no infection after 4 years without an AV. For a conscientious user I would have installed MSE, but for him, I installed Bitdefender free. Some people are just lucky I guess.
    Oh yeah and he only had on "toolbar" to uninstall, but that's just a PUP.
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    Both AV Test & AV Comparatives have their newest test results for April 2015 out, so take a look at how your current AV fairs in comparison or Use results to choose one...
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    AV Comparatives has been updated for May 2015
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    Nice results. Trend Micro and Panda tops real-world protection test. Been using one of these for awhile.
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