Solved An adequate A/V program for Windows 8.1.1 required.

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Hi, I'm given to believe that the recent large update from Windows caused my computer to crash because of possible conflict with Avast (?) I also believe that this has also occurred on previous occasions when also using AVG.
I can understand updates conflicting with 3rd party software and this has brought me to pose this question.
Would I be adequately protected using Windows Defender bearing in mind that my browsing is restricted to well known and respected sites and I don't blindly click on to hyperlinks.
Regarding the recent crash referred to; I was able to complete a full recovery and I am now looking to avoid problems of this nature whenever possible.
Thank you.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    pcspecialists. Fusion450
    CPU
    AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core. 3.60GHz.
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD7700 series
I don't use third party A/V - never have.. never had problems either.. Knock on wood..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
Would I be adequately protected using Windows Defender bearing in mind that my browsing is restricted to well known and respected sites and I don't blindly click on to hyperlinks.
Yes, i is unlikely, that WD would mark Windows system files as virus. It happened to dozen of AVs over years.
In that case add some ondemand scanner, like HitmanPro Free, which can scans at startup or other like:

Emsisoft Free Emergency Kit: Portable and/or Dr.Web CureIt!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo E525
    CPU
    AMD A4-3300M @ 2,0GHz
    Memory
    6GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6480G 512MB shared
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    WD 465GB
    Cooling
    Fusion Tweaker
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50/50 MBps
    Browser
    Yandex
    Antivirus
    No AV & No Firewall
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170
I always used MSE with window 7 and now I'm using windows defender with 8.1 and it's never failed me. It's even caught a bundeled software downloader when I once downloaded a theme with skins at windows7themes.net. A lot of AV software tells you about every tracking cookie and that's a lot of bull(like the terminator "They'll be back" the next time you surf).
I just use Windows Defender, Web of Trust, adblockplus(turned off on my favorite sites like windows 8 forums, how-to-geek, majorgeeks, softpedia news...etc.(the ads pay for the servers and the people who offer us a "free" service) and I keep my tracking protection on, that should be enough. Of course I also do not use file sharing tools like bit torrent either. I'm finding Windows 8.1 about as safe and fast as Ubuntu now with it's built in rootkit protection and fast boot. But just for the sake of safety in case my brain(the most important AV in the chain) crashes and I do "catch a virus" I also have Malwarebytes already installed.
One last thing everyone should have Advanced Membership checked for MAPS in Defenders settings so Microsoft can get all the information if you do get malware and then they can pass it on to the other AV companies.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
I use Avast & have had no problems. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
Would I be adequately protected using Windows Defender bearing in mind that my browsing is restricted to well known and respected sites and I don't blindly click on to hyperlinks.

I dumped my non-MS antivirus because the problems reported here in updating Win 8.1

I now only use Win Defender, and have not had any problems.

My browsing is similar to your
browsing is restricted to well known and respected sites and I don't blindly click on to hyperlinks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS X54C
    CPU
    Intel Pentium B940 2.00GHz Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
    Motherboard
    OEM - ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Model K54C (CPU 1) Version 1.0 Chipset Vendor Intel Chipset Model
    Memory
    6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    OEM - Intel Model HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    OEM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    OEM
    Hard Drives
    Manufacturer Hitachi
    Product Family Travelstar
    Series Prefix Standard
    Model Capacity For This Specific Drive 500GB
    PSU
    OEM
    Case
    OEM
    Cooling
    OEM
    Keyboard
    OEM
    Mouse
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    4 Mbps ADSL
    Browser
    Chrome 64bit
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Billion 400G Wi-fi router
Unfortunately, browsing internet is not the only thing that can bring an unwanted "guest", Any CD/DVD or USB device can contain malware. You can practice safe browsing and still get a virus from borrowed disk or USB with MM or programs.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Unfortunately, browsing internet is not the only thing that can bring an unwanted "guest", Any CD/DVD or USB device can contain malware. You can practice safe browsing and still get a virus from borrowed disk or USB with MM or programs.
You're obviously talking about that thumb drive found on the ground in the company/firms parking lot!!!:thumb:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
Unfortunately, browsing internet is not the only thing that can bring an unwanted "guest", Any CD/DVD or USB device can contain malware. You can practice safe browsing and still get a virus from borrowed disk or USB with MM or programs.
You're obviously talking about that thumb drive found on the ground in the company/firms parking lot!!!:thumb:
With my luck I would get run over while retrieving it but not talking about that. Many people keep their music on them to play on car radio etc. they stick it in their computer to transfer music and presto, if their system is dirty so the USB will most likely be too. Many other reasons to use USB stick for transferring files and it seems like everybody and his brother have one or two of them in the pockets. You should see what it looks like when my grandson bring his that was plugged in his school's computer !!! I fire up Linux on VM to check it every time. I would say that they are far riskier than many unsafe practices on internet.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
An Adequate A/V program for Windows 8.1.1

Thank you one and all for you respected opinions. Collectively it has given me the confidence to remove the 3rd party A/V program and activate Windows Defender which I completed earlier today.
To those who also warned of memory sticks etc - thank you and I don't interchange drives/disks of this nature.
In addition I also do and have used Malwarebytes for some years now and will continue to do so.
Thanks again to the Members of this excellent Forum.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    pcspecialists. Fusion450
    CPU
    AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core. 3.60GHz.
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD7700 series
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