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  1. #31


    India
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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Thanks for that David. It's all configured now.

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  2. #32


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Thanks for that David. It's all configured now.
    I think you like it.
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  3. #33


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 64-bit OEM Install Upgraded to 8.1 through Store


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    Also your first line of defense should be a completely patched system not limited to OS only but all installed programs
    I should have mentioned Secunia PSI
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  4. #34


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gaming View Post
    Also your first line of defense should be a completely patched system not limited to OS only but all installed programs
    I should have mentioned Secunia PSI
    I had Secunia earlier, but had to uninstall it completely because Kaspersky found some vulnerability in it
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  5. #35


    Sunnyvale, CA USA
    Posts : 283
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64-bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post

    Second thing, can EMET be installed in my PC - it already has KIS & MBAM free. Will there be any conflicts , resource hog? (I've SSD already in my lap as boot drive)

    Thank u very much

    This will depend on how you set it up. I have not noticed any resource issues or real-time problems. But I have noticed a few programs that need to be tweaked - usually older stuff or the big bundled packages.

    I set it up for extreme checking:

    Click image for larger version

    I volunteer in a local Senior Center PC lab where we have 10 PCs running Windows 7, 8, Mac, Linux and Chromebox.

    On the PCs we ran the Live Essentials (or Defender) and Malwarebytes. We encountered a serious trojan infestation recently and switched to Kaspersky AV because it detected and fixed the problem, but the older ones didn't. We've intercepted a few viruses on user USB thumb drives since then.
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  6. #36


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by arachnaut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post

    Second thing, can EMET be installed in my PC - it already has KIS & MBAM free. Will there be any conflicts , resource hog? (I've SSD already in my lap as boot drive)

    Thank u very much

    This will depend on how you set it up. I have not noticed any resource issues or real-time problems. But I have noticed a few programs that need to be tweaked - usually older stuff or the big bundled packages.

    I set it up for extreme checking:

    Click image for larger version

    I volunteer in a local Senior Center PC lab where we have 10 PCs running Windows 7, 8, Mac, Linux and Chromebox.

    On the PCs we ran the Live Essentials (or Defender) and Malwarebytes. We encountered a serious trojan infestation recently and switched to Kaspersky AV because it detected and fixed the problem, but the older ones didn't. We've intercepted a few viruses on user USB thumb drives since then.
    Okay, I've changed it to extreme checking. How can I tweak the programs & how will I know which programs are to be tweaked?

    Also, I don't see any processes marked "green" under running EMET in mine when I compare mine with the above screenshot.
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  7. #37


    Sunnyvale, CA USA
    Posts : 283
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64-bit)


    You have to add the processes you want monitored one-by-one.
    Then you have to select what things you want it to monitor.
    You should read the documentation to figure out what has to be done. It's not a simple tool.

    Check the event viewer for EMET logs (you can make a custom filter).

    After you add a process to EMET you will need to restart that process to see if it works or not.

    If it doesn't work - either don't monitor it or try different settings on the monitor.
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  8. #38


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by arachnaut View Post
    You have to add the processes you want monitored one-by-one.
    Then you have to select what things you want it to monitor.
    You should read the documentation to figure out what has to be done. It's not a simple tool.

    Check the event viewer for EMET logs (you can make a custom filter).

    After you add a process to EMET you will need to restart that process to see if it works or not.

    If it doesn't work - either don't monitor it or try different settings on the monitor.
    Thanks for that Jim. I got a headache (no offence intended) , while configuring each process one-by-one and I still dont know what the different mitigations still does to each app.

    In some I'm getting an error (something like C:\Windows\explorer.exe conflicts with c:\windows\explorer.exe) everytime I try to configure. I did apply all the mitigation in one or two without any problems.

    But, in some other while applying them, get another windows asking for module name and something like that.

    While applying to some other, a message came asking for stopping the process automatically.

    Now, my doubt is that, I could see EMET also listed in the processes - can i apply all mitigations to it too? Next, can i apply all to Kaspersky, Adobe , iexplorer, explorer.exe just like that?
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  9. #39


    Sunnyvale, CA USA
    Posts : 283
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64-bit)


    You may have a process, like Explorer, running several instances. So when you make the second entry, you get that message.
    I have taken the default settings on everything that runs normally, except for my antivirus scanner - Kaspersky, which I excluded.
    I included EMET in the settings.

    I did get a few problems with some things - they would not run or I got an error.

    Sometimes this would happen long after I made the entry so I forgot that EMET may be involved.

    Now, if I see an issue with something, I disable EMET to see if it goes away.

    For the most part, it appears to be well-made and only some of the older software had problems.

    When you install EMET you should use the pre-built list of exceptions and then add to it.
    That list includes Office and many other common software programs.
    Not every exploit mitigation is checked for each program.

    Basically, you want to cover the common ones, because it would be rather rare to encounter an exploit for a little-used application.
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  10. #40


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    What do you mean by 'default settings' - is it all mitigations applied or not change the mitigations already 'checked'?

    What do you mean by 'exceptions'? Should I not apply all mitigations to these exceptions?
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