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  1. #31


    Posts : 85
    Windows 10 64-bit/ Windows 8.1 64-bit


    I use Windows Defender, the firewall, UAC and something that can’t be matched by any anti-virus suite, common sense. The last time a virus exploited my system, it was purely my fault because I forgot to unclick a promotion that came with the program I wanted. As long as you respect sensible rules you will be fine and backup anything you can’t afford to lose.

    My new computers always come with trialware antivirus I have to kill. I’ve saved my parents at least a thousand dollars by teaching them to have confidence in Windows Defender/Microsoft Security Essentials and to be mindful in their online activities. They were the ideal targets of those AV companies which is why I hate the fear campaigns ran to exploit people and scare them into buying unneeded bloatware.

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  2. #32


    Beloit, Wisconsin
    Posts : 125
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Allison View Post
    I use Windows Defender, the firewall, UAC and something that can’t be matched by any anti-virus suite, common sense. The last time a virus exploited my system, it was purely my fault because I forgot to unclick a promotion that came with the program I wanted. As long as you respect sensible rules you will be fine and backup anything you can’t afford to lose.

    My new computers always come with trialware antivirus I have to kill. I’ve saved my parents at least a thousand dollars by teaching them to have confidence in Windows Defender/Microsoft Security Essentials and to be mindful in their online activities. They were the ideal targets of those AV companies which is why I hate the fear campaigns ran to exploit people and scare them into buying unneeded bloatware.
    At the end it all boils down to what you do online and what you download. Always be careful with what you download and install. But I I agree with your post.
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  3. #33


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyed View Post
    I mostly agree with your rant jimbo45. The AV industry is mostly based on scare tactics, very similar to what the guys creating virus/malware and such do.

    But what irks me the most is the concept of Anti-Virus in itself is flawed.... And it is deliberate because it encourages having the "best" AV or the one detecting the most, which is a non-ending and ultimately useless quest.
    Fact : There is NO AV in the world that can protect you against everything. Why ? Because if you create something new and never seen before, it isn't in the database of signatures and it will pass the virus scan very easily.

    A very good read related on this subject is : The Six Dumbest Ideas in Computer Security

    Basically it is a fool's quest to enumerate something that has become exponential. Maybe when AVs signatures attain 1GB size, some people will realize this but I doubt it.

    Some solutions already exist that are much better at protecting against malware than AVs, including but not limited to:
    * Sandbox applications (Sandboxie, Virtualization, etc..)
    * Block executables by default policy (Software Restriction Policy, present on all windows since XP or Applocker since win 7)
    * Frequent reset to a default state of your system (Steady State by Microsoft, Deep Freeze by Faronics, etc... or even manually with any disk cloning application like Macrium Reflect or Acronis True Image)
    Hi there

    A good read - but I DO disagree with what the article says on educating users -- education is NEVER wasted -- even if you think a particular technique is out of date and won't be used so a waste of time a user learning how to deal with it.

    Recently someone was rescued from a place by using the Morse code for SOS -- bet that hasn't been used for ages -- however it's still instructive as a visual device to show youngsters about Binary code (a dot and a dash shows the concept very quickly- and by speeding a film up you can explain to young kids the concept of Binary data transmisstion, compression and even encryption).

    My Grandad was always saying "The price of Education is expensive -- but the Price of IGNORANCE is ASTRONOMICAL. I don't know where he got the expression from but it's certainly true.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #34


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    My Grandad was always saying "The price of Education is expensive -- but the Price of IGNORANCE is ASTRONOMICAL. I don't know where he got the expression from but it's certainly true.
    The very truth,
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