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  1. #21


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    Question for the OP

    "Is the Pope Catholic".

    99% of security issues are down to the USER and a lot of problems aren't even computer related at all but users sending passwords and giving other info out to "innocuous" looking email requests etc.

    Install MSE on W8, activate firewall settings correctly, surf sensibly and you are as well protected in W8 as any other computer system (including Linux - in fact Linux can be worse since if a remote user can get ROOT privileges they can do ANYTHING AT ALL on the system -- remember simply replying to some emails can send sensitive data to people who will make malicious use of it).

    My worry isn't computers but Mobile Phone apps --especially on android.

    Some viruses going round now will send premium texts without the owner knowing until they get the bill !!.
    I certainly wouldn't do ANY ONLINE BANKING from a mobile phone app -- I don't have issues doing Banking from W7 or even W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #22


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    You guys are too kind with an old man. That's the boy scout spirit.
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  3. #23


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    Windows 8, x64, DP8102 - Win7 Ultimate x64, Dual Boot


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Install MSE on W8, activate firewall settings correctly, surf sensibly and you are as well protected in W8 as any other computer system (including Linux - in fact Linux can be worse since if a remote user can get ROOT privileges they can do ANYTHING AT ALL on the system -- remember simply replying to some emails can send sensitive data to people who will make malicious use of it).
    Jimbo, you don't need MSE on Win8 8102 DP. It's already there albeit as Defender in this iteration.

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  4. #24


    Mt. Crumpit cave
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
    Jimbo, you don't need MSE on Win8 8102 DP. It's already there albeit as Defender in this iteration.
    Is there documentation to this Mike?
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  5. #25


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    Pull up your MSE (if you are using it) and compare it to my screen cap above for Defender in Win8 8102 DP.

    Also, see here:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/15/protecting-you-from-malware.aspx

    ... If you don’t have another solution installed, Windows 8 will provide you protection with a significantly improved version of Windows Defender.
    Improved protection for all types of malware. The improvements to Windows Defender will help protect you from all types of malware, including viruses, worms, bots and rootkits by using the complete set of malware signatures from the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, which Windows Update will deliver regularly along with the latest Microsoft antimalware engine. This expanded set of signatures is a significant improvement over previous versions, which only included signatures for spyware, adware, and potentially unwanted software.
    In addition, Windows Defender will now provide you with real-time detection and protection from malware threats using a file system filter, and will interface with Windows secured boot, another new Window 8 protection feature.

    ... In conclusion, we’ve taken a very broad approach to improving the level of protection you’ll get from malware in Windows 8, including the use of SDL processes to be secure by design, the implementation and upgrading of mitigations to help protect you against exploits used by malware, improvements to Windows Defender to provide you with real-time protection against all categories of malware, and the use of URL and application reputation to help protect you against social engineering attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryCN View Post
    hahahahah
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
    Jimbo, you don't need MSE on Win8 8102 DP. It's already there albeit as Defender in this iteration.
    Is there documentation to this Mike?
    They are certainly very similar, Windows defender has been beefed up to use several componants of MSE and by the time Windows 8 is released it may well take over with MSE dissapearing like its predecessor, But they are not yet exactly alike. I have opted to use MSE for the time being as it has more options.
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  8. #28


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    Which additional options does MSE have over Defender in Win8 8102 DP, Pooch?
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  9. #29


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    Without going into to much detail

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  10. #30


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    The only real difference I see, Pooch, with the Win8 8102 Defender and MSE, is the "Scheduled scan" and "Default actions."

    Still, MSE is unnecessary with Win8 8102 DP. I'll say it again: MSE is unnecessary with Win8 8102 DP.

    OK?

    Read the link I provided above.
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