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Windows Defender don't start-up immediately

  1. #11


    Hello;
    Reply to topgundcp : no change after disabling it

    Repyl to my2cents
    after dispart /list volume i receive
    vol 0 C Acer boot
    1 Recovery hidden
    2 ESP system
    3 push button hidden
    to be honnest i am a little afraid as i am not sure what i have to type in next although i did make first a restore point.


    Regards
    RitaHubert

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  2. #12


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by ritahubert View Post
    Hello;
    Reply to topgundcp : no change after disabling it

    Repyl to my2cents
    after dispart /list volume i receive
    vol 0 C Acer boot
    1 Recovery hidden
    2 ESP system
    3 push button hidden
    to be honnest i am a little afraid as i am not sure what i have to type in next although i did make first a restore point.


    Regards
    RitaHubert
    Hello Rita,

    Let me make it easy for you by following these simple steps:

    open an elevated command prompt and type/enter sfc /scannow

    Note: This will take some time to finish; however, once done, if errors are reported, do the following:

    open (or same) elevated command prompt and type/enter Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

    Once done, reboot and see what happens.
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  3. #13


    San Jose - California
    Posts : 2,847
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    Have you read my last post from the previous page ?
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  4. #14


    Hello, topgundcp & my2cent

    -i executed the scan and it stopped at 58% with a fault which couldn't be solved
    -afterwards the dism... and it wat corrected succesfully
    -then i did run the scan again ....succesfully with some correction
    -restarted the PC but unfortunally the same

    Previously i had already stopped the Defender but neither i could make any change (topgundcp , i mentioned it in a previous combined answer but maybe you missed it)
    I did it now again after the clean-up but no effect.

    Additional information:
    I saw that a few systemcomponents mentioned as "delayed start, triggerstart" have the same problem (al others are working).
    Both are depended on the RPC but it is set as automatic (can neither be changed).

    PS: i stated now that the startu-up time is by now much longer ...maybe due to more testing??

    Regards
    RitaHubert
    Last edited by ritahubert; 13 Sep 2013 at 06:27.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by ritahubert View Post
    Hello, topgundcp & my2cent

    -i executed the scan and it stopped at 58% with a fault which couldn't be solved
    -afterwards the dism... and it wat corrected succesfully
    -then i did run the scan again ....succesfully with some correction
    -restarted the PC but unfortunally the same

    Previously i had already stopped the Defender but neither i could make any change (topgundcp , i mentioned it in a previous combined answer but maybe you missed it)
    I did it now again after the clean-up but no effect.

    Additional information:
    I saw that a few systemcomponents mentioned as "delayed start, triggerstart" have the same problem (al others are working).
    Both are depended on the RPC but it is set as automatic (can neither be changed).

    PS: i stated now that the startu-up time is by now much longer ...maybe due to more testing??

    Regards
    RitaHubert
    Just a side note, somewhat related to your latest "slow startup" issue. I was using Windows Defender and I had fast boot enabled on one of my 8.1 laptops and I noticed that my fast startup wasn't quite as fast as I expected. So, when Avast 8 finally announced a new release that was fully compatible with 8.0 and 8.1, I jumped at the chance to replace Defender. Now, I can safely say that my boot time has greatly improved and my fast boot is actually making a distinct difference. Please understand that I am not trying to encourage you to make the switch; however, if you cannot get your issue resolved by continuing to work with topguncp, you might be able to "kill two birds with one stone" by switching to Avast.
    Last edited by my2cents; 13 Sep 2013 at 08:35.
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  6. #16


    Hello,

    Thanks all for the technical information.
    Some clean-up took place on the services but unfortunally the Defender problem wasn't solved , neither by stopping the function.

    Also thanks for your advice but the little longer start-up (15 sec.) will be probably due to some corrupted services which are now being solved.

    For your information only: without changing anything and after several restarts ...the laptob is again booting very fast.

    Regards
    RitaHubert
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  7. #17


    San Jose - California
    Posts : 2,847
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    What My2Cents advised you to do (run SFC & DISM) were to repair any corrupted files and indeed will help starting up Windows faster. Your original question is about Windows Defender not starting right away and due to recent Windows Updates, MS disabled the option to allow you to change the Startup Type from "Automatic delayed" to "Automatic".
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  8. #18


    Hello,
    Thanks for your attention but i think i am not following quite well.
    Indeed the initial question was and is still why can't i change the setting to automatic of the Defender.

    I executed the sfc & Dim with success whereby some corrupted files were solved (again thanks), your proposal first to stop the defender but that didn't worked neither.

    I mentioned afwards a short delay (which looked for me obvious) but now the start-up is again very fast (why the positive change i don't know).

    If i understood you well than due to recent MS updates the function is disabled but than it is the case for everybody?

    If i am totaly confused than sorry for it but nevertheless thanks again.

    regards
    RitaHubert
    regards
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  9. #19


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by ritahubert View Post
    But as explained already after a few minutes everthing is oké.
    Hallo Rita,

    I hope da's oké.


    Normally Defender should be turned on and working without issues (I got that here too).

    What most forget to point out is that other Antivirus programs need to be completely uninstalled in order for Defender to work. You need to uninstall any left overs of Norton, Mcaffee and others if this is the case (mostly with new PC's where the manufacturer installed extra programs).

    If this isn't the case of extra AV programs installed, try to follow some of the posts above mine.

    Good luck.
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  10. #20


    Hello to all,

    Sorry, I missed the comment of topgundcp that MS has changed recently via updates the possibility to change the setting to automatically.

    That was indeed my understanding that everbody should have the greyed layout, although it seems that by hopachi it is oké..

    I was thinking that maybe there is a difference between 8 en 8.1 (may some of you are using it), in Europe is is planned for october

    Regards and again all thanks, i see herewith the thread as closed.
    RitaHubert
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