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Continuing problem of understanding apps !

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    Continuing problem of understanding apps !


    Hello,
    Again this is the first time using apps. No phones, no pads. I understand that apps are just programs - per se! But some of the apps require internet connections and stuff and some are just the renaming of an already on the computer program. I wish to use the photo viewer and it appears except for the starting up as an app and whatever else it does, looks like the Windows 7 Photo Viewer. Is it indeed an onboard program that is dressed up to look like the metro app style stuff or is it a communicating with the clouds type of app? I was attempting to find the plain .exe, but was unable to locate it successfully. What is wrong with my picture of the situation?
    Thanks in advance!
    Glenn

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    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux


    Windows 8 now offers two distinct types of application, the standard Windows type application we're all familiar with, and the new Metro style applications. The standard windows applications are typically comprised of one or more exe files, dlls and support files. A Metro style application has no such structure. This kind of application is basically a collection of javascript, HTML5 and CSS, and possibly some supporting dlls.

    As far as location on disk, Metro style applications will typically have their components in several folders, as an example:

    1. C:\Users\{User Name}\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\{insert name of metro app here}_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    2. C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\{insert name of metro app here}_16.2.3237.215_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\{insert name of metro app here}
    3. C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_{insert name of metro app here}_31bf3856ad364e35_6.2.8250.0_none_64575da77583f5f5

    Not all Metro style applications are 'cloud' based, although the majority are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Windows 8 now offers two distinct types of application, the standard Windows type application we're all familiar with, and the new Metro style applications. The standard windows applications are typically comprised of one or more exe files, dlls and support files. A Metro style application has no such structure. This kind of application is basically a collection of javascript, HTML5 and CSS, and possibly some supporting dlls.

    As far as location on disk, Metro style applications will typically have their components in several folders, as an example:

    1. C:\Users\{User Name}\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\{insert name of metro app here}_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    2. C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\{insert name of metro app here}_16.2.3237.215_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\{insert name of metro app here}
    3. C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_{insert name of metro app here}_31bf3856ad364e35_6.2.8250.0_none_64575da77583f5f5

    Not all Metro style applications are 'cloud' based, although the majority are.
    Thanks for the response and info Calico! I don't cloud but I do want the Windows Photo Viewer. Do you know a way of telling if the metro app is connecting to the internet? Some kinda easy way ?
    Cheers
    Glenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennc View Post
    Thanks for the response and info Calico! I don't cloud but I do want the Windows Photo Viewer. Do you know a way of telling if the metro app is connecting to the internet? Some kinda easy way ?
    CheersGlenn
    The problem with Metro applications, is that as soon as you stop interacting with them, the system suspends them. They also don't lend themselves, usefully at least, to running side-by-side. However, If your screen resolution allows, you to run a Metro application and a standard desktop application side-by-side - see Metro Multitasking - Run Two Metro Apps at the Same Time - So you could try with your Metro Application on one side and Task Manager/Resource Monitor in the other. If you can't run side-by-side, then you could try switching from the Metro app to the desktop...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glennc View Post
    Thanks for the response and info Calico! I don't cloud but I do want the Windows Photo Viewer. Do you know a way of telling if the metro app is connecting to the internet? Some kinda easy way ?
    CheersGlenn
    The problem with Metro applications, is that as soon as you stop interacting with them, the system suspends them. They also don't lend themselves, usefully at least, to running side-by-side. However, If your screen resolution allows, you to run a Metro application and a standard desktop application side-by-side - see Metro Multitasking - Run Two Metro Apps at the Same Time - So you could try with your Metro Application on one side and Task Manager/Resource Monitor in the other. If you can't run side-by-side, then you could try switching from the Metro app to the desktop...
    Howdy Calico,
    No, I am getting in too over my head. Just put a 2nd drive in the box and doing my first system image, yah no more installs (fingers crossed). I, from what I have gleaned about the cloud using, not like regular .exe programs. I don't want them. I plan to play with them some to get the idea and see the proposed new way of computing. I will also see if I can run two apps, I only have a 14" Sylvania CRT. Thanks for the the information. If the system image verifies, I am off to the races!
    Take care!
    Glenn
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    If it helps, from what I've seen, any Metro application that has a online capability, will make one or more network connections as soon as it's lunched. These will persist until the application is suspended or closed. Once resumed, the connections will be recreated.
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    Glenn, if you do not like one of the new apps opening your file (e.g. picture or music) by default, right click on the file and go to "Choose Default Program". That will offer you a number of options. Once you chose a different one there, the files with that filetype will always open with that other program (it changes the filetype association).

    But you have to do that for every filetype. If e.g. you chose a different program for .jpg pictures, that would not apply to .png or .bmp pictures. For those you have to go thru the same procedure - once per filetype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    If it helps, from what I've seen, any Metro application that has a online capability, will make one or more network connections as soon as it's lunched. These will persist until the application is suspended or closed. Once resumed, the connections will be recreated.
    Thanks Calico,
    Now that I'm backed up to a safe place. I can play with them all I want. Feeling of relief! Thanks again for the assistance!
    Glenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Glenn, if you do not like one of the new apps opening your file (e.g. picture or music) by default, right click on the file and go to "Choose Default Program". That will offer you a number of options. Once you chose a different one there, the files with that filetype will always open with that other program (it changes the filetype association).

    But you have to do that for every filetype. If e.g. you chose a different program for .jpg pictures, that would not apply to .png or .bmp pictures. For those you have to go thru the same procedure - once per filetype.
    Howdy Sir!!
    Thanks for stopping in! I understand (thankfully) what you are saying and I can accomplish that. But in this particular case, what is confusing for me is that I want Windows Photo Viewer to open picture files. The unexplained issue in my mind is my still not fully understanding apps. In Windows 7 I use it. But I am wondering about it only being available as an app on the start page.
    Is it just a shortcut to the regular program as in W7 located on my computer. Or is it one of the apps that connect to the internet and starts doing things I don't want it to. As an example, I read the Firefox is supposedly coming out with an app. Well I don't get it for my computer. I have a perfectly set up and running .exe that does everything I want it to. What is the point of a Firefox app, except for phones and maybe tablets? Still trying to figure it out.
    Appreciate your assistance!
    Glenn
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    Hello Glenn,

    In Windows 7 and Windows 8 Windows Photo Viewer can no longer be opened directly with a shortcut like Windows Photo Gallery in Vista could. Instead, you open the image to "Open with" Windows Photo Viewer.

    As Wolfgang posted above, you can use Default Programs to set the default associations for Windows Photo Viewer.

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    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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