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Macrium Reflect Free installation problem

  1. #31


    San Jose - California
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    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    1. True and you don't have to login with MS Account. In addition, instead of using a CD as your boot media, it is faster if you have a USB stick to use.
    2. True and you can also explore the backup image when booting from CD/USB using free version.
    3. You don't have to buy the pro version, the free version will do. However, if you restore an image from another PC, you might have problems with activation, drivers, and same SID (unique ID that tights to the User Name in each PC) as the other PC
    4. As said above, the free version will do.
    5. You should not buy for the standard/pro version at this time until you get the free version to install.

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  2. #32


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    1. I can use the Macrium free software direct from a recovery CD without having to install it on any machines. So I can boot the recovery CD then perform a backup onto an external HDD. I can download a recent version of the recovery CD from whs if I choose this option (thank you!). Do I have to log in with my Microsoft account to access this?
    This is all correct and you need no login of any sort.

    as 2) that is all correct

    ad 3) yes you need a Pro edition for that. I am not sure though whether that key of the Pro is for one system only. It may work to activate on seperate systems.

    The new disk has to be big enough to contain the data - the size of the original partition is irrelevant. I am not sure though how the activation of Windows 8 will work because the Windows 8 product key is in the BIOS.

    ad 4) correct

    ad 5) no idea. We already don't know why the free Macrium does not work on your system. The same gremlins may effect the Pro version.
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  3. #33


    Greece
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    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Thanks to topgundcp and whs for clarifying things.

    There seems to be a difference of opinion between you as to whether I can explore an image created using a recovery CD or not, with topgundcp saying 'Yes' and whs saying 'No'.

    I will have a go at using the recovery CD method to at least create an image using Macrium, but my thinking is moving towards having a method that would enable me to restore to different hardware if needed. So looks like I need to check out alternatives to Macrium if it continues to refuse to work for me.

    I do already have my Windows 8 product key information stored safely in case I need it.
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  4. #34


    San Jose - California
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    There seems to be a difference of opinion between you as to whether I can explore an image created using a recovery CD or not, with topgundcp saying 'Yes' and whs saying 'No'.
    See screenshot booting from CD/USB. Image mounted and explore:

    Click image for larger version
    Last edited by topgundcp; 27 Aug 2014 at 11:22.
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  5. #35


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I can explore an image created using a recovery CD or not, with topgundcp saying 'Yes' and whs saying 'No'.
    Cofusion rules. If you mean by 'explore' that you want to mount the image and look at it in Computer, then this is not possible with the CD. If you mean something else, please explain.
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  6. #36


    Greece
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    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    What I meant by 'explore' was to mount the HDD image and then be able to browse the files, which whs says is not possible if using the CD.

    But when I do this with my Windows System images I see the same thing as in topgundcp's screenshot (which he has described as 'Image mounted and explore'.

    So confusion definitely reigns for me!
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  7. #37


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    When you double click on the image file, you should see the window below.

    PS: Sorry, that's supposed to read "checkmark"


    Click image for larger version
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  8. #38


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    IMO I'd recommend a full commercial backup for anything other than the simplest of functions -- Acronis 2014 for example is around 40 - 50 USD - and the amount of time it saves (plus your data) it's a no-brainer.

    The commercial products can easily create bootable USB's, schedule automatic backup jobs, do "Incremental backups" - these are backups that only backup CHANGED data since the last backup, and mount backup files as "Hdd's" so you can explore them and manipulate individual files just like Windows explorer. Things like UEFI systems and GPT partitions are also handled.

    Your choice of course -- but IMO BACKUP should be FIRST NATURE to anybody using a computer and paying a relatively small amount of money for a ROBUST product IMO is definitely MORE than worth while.

    I DO love free and open source software but when it comes to backup my DATA is more valuable than all my computing equipment combined -- just imagine having to re-rip 2,000 - 3,000 CD's again - even if I still had them !!!! -- so a proper ROBUST backup program seems to me really a "No Brainer".

    However even the SIMPLEST backup program is better than none -- all too often on these forums we see posts from people asking for help on trying to mend broken systems or recover lost data when a simple backup would have solved the problem quickly - in most cases under 30 mins !! and easily.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #39


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    No need to spend 50 bucks. Free Macrium can do all of that - except incrementals which one should never use anyway.
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  10. #40


    Greece
    Posts : 341
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    IMO I'd recommend a full commercial backup for anything other than the simplest of functions -- Acronis 2014 for example is around 40 - 50 USD - and the amount of time it saves (plus your data) it's a no-brainer.
    I think I'm going to try the free trial of Acronis anyway, Jimbo as I still have problems opening the Macrium product on one laptop, and, as I think I said before, I am leaning towards a product that will enable me to restore to different hardware, just in case.

    And I'm going to makr the thread as 'Solved' because, although I do still have the original problem, I think the possible solutions, and helpful alternatives, have been explored for me.

    So thank you everyone who offered advice and suggestions.
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