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Macrium Reflect Free installation problem

  1. #21


    Harrisonburg, Va.
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    But I think it could be a good idea to have something that also lets me restore to another machine...
    This might be of interest for installing an image from one computer to another.

    Reflect_v5

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    If this is of no help, I apologize for wasting your time.

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  2. #22


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    But I think it could be a good idea to have something that also lets me restore to another machine...
    This might be of interest for installing an image from one computer to another.

    Reflect_v5

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    If this is of no help, I apologize for wasting your time.
    I believe that this is a function of the Pro version. But it may be worth it.

    Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download
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  3. #23


    Greece
    Posts : 341
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Thanks to both topgundcp and whs for your help.

    Now you have explained the XML files I recall seeing this when I did my (only) successful image backup on my first laptop. I'm happy not to use this.

    But my recovery CD was created some months ago so it is not from the latest version of Macrium. Does this matter?

    And is there any actual need to have the Macrium program installed on either laptop if I can run it from the CD?

    Regarding Emsisoft - I didn't turn it off, but followed guidance on the Macrium site to add settings to Emsisoft to allow Macrium to work. I will recheck these as I did them from memory the second time.
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  4. #24


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center



    Yes, it is worth the money, IMO.


    I have the Standard version & am happy with it.


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    The restore to dissimilar hardware is in the Pro version.
    Last edited by David Bailey; 25 Aug 2014 at 12:54.
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  5. #25


    Greece
    Posts : 341
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    This might be of interest for installing an image from one computer to another.

    Reflect_v5


    If this is of no help, I apologize for wasting your time.
    Not wasting my time at all, David, it's all adding to my knowledge. If I do go for a paid version it will definitely be one that allows redeploying. Just got to get the thing working first!
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  6. #26


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    I only have 1 computer.
    That's why I got the Standard instead of the Pro version.

    If I did have 2 computers I would buy 2 Pro Macriums.
    One for each computer.

    That would cost but taking a computer to a repair shop could cost $100/hour.

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  7. #27


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It uses its own snapshot driver. Acronis does not give you the choice, snapman only. Some programs use vss by default, but you can select the internal driver as an alternative, e.g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    One way around the VSS problem is to run the Macrium imaging from the recovery CD. VSS is only needed to 'freeze' the initial image so that you can continue working on the PC whilst the image is being recorded. But if you run from the CD, that case does not exist.

    I wonder how Acronis does that because if you want to continue using the PC whilst the image is written, they must use some scheme to lock down the image.
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  8. #28


    San Jose - California
    Posts : 2,847
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    And is there any actual need to have the Macrium program installed on either laptop if I can run it from the CD?
    Simple answer is no, you don't need to install it as long as you have the CD/USB to boot from and do a basic backup/restore. However, installing Macrium will allow you to:
    1. Backup online while Windows is running
    2. Allow you to explore the backup image file and selectively restore file(s) in case you accidentally delete any file(s). Just double click on the image and mount it as a virtual HD.
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  9. #29


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    But my recovery CD was created some months ago so it is not from the latest version of Macrium. Does this matter?
    You can get one of the latest Macrium recovery .isos from my One Drive. Just download that and burn it to CD.
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  10. #30


    Greece
    Posts : 341
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    I appreciate all the answers, but am getting a little confused, especially as the post has also generated a discussion about different backup software. This is great as it gives me things to think about, but I don't want to lose sight of my original issues.

    So below is my summary of what I (think I) understand, essentially related to the use of Macrium. I'd appreciate comments where I may have misunderstood:

    1. I can use the Macrium free software direct from a recovery CD without having to install it on any machines. So I can boot the recovery CD then perform a backup onto an external HDD. I can download a recent version of the recovery CD from whs if I choose this option (thank you!). Do I have to log in with my Microsoft account to access this?

    2. However, if I don't install Macrium onto a machine I can't:
    • Save XML files (no problem)
    • Backup online while WIndows is still working (no problem, I always leave the machine alone until a backup is completed)
    • Explore the backup I have made on the HDD and selectively restore files from it. I can only use the backup if/when I need it to deal with a problem on the machine it was created from.


    3. If I want to have a situation where I want a backup that could be restored onto a different machine if necessary (if i get so frustrated with things that I throw the laptop out of the window for a 'refreshing' experience, for example ) I wuld need to buy the Pro edition of the product, with a licence for each machine. I am assuming this would give me the flexibility to restore an image to a HDD or to another machine, which need not be similar to my current one as long as it is big enough for the restore. So it means I could use my Windows 8 software beyond the life of my current laptop if I chose to or needed to.

    4. If I use the Pro edition of Macrium, do the things above apply:
    • I could use it from a recovery CD instead of installing it on the machine BUT I would be unable to explore the image or selectively restore from it.


    5. In which case I would want to install the Pro version onto the laptop. But if I can't get the latest version of the Macrium free edition to open on the laptop, what chance the Pro would work? (somewhat rhetorical question ).
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