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Best System Optimizer 2014

  1. #11


    Voted for Ccleaner Free and TuneUp Pro. Both are great products and have excellent/helpful utilities. I use Ccleaner on an every day basis with my clients and I use TuneUp fairly often as well.

    Edit: I guess ​LMiller7
    wording is also correct in saying these are used more so for maintenance than for anything else.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 1,720
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Some lucid responses here.
    Installing too many 3rd party programs of this nature often leads to half your system problems.
    In my honest opinion, Windows has sufficient cleaning, optimization and performance options built in, and, if those won't help a sluggish system, (and I'm not trying to be a smart*ss), but here is the best optimization tool:

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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    Just a note: I would advice anyone to stay away from IObit products. Not just because of this:
    150 Million Users' Choice - Boost Your PC 300% Faster
    As I have mentioned before, I did a quick test of free versions and I would recommend:

    1. CCleaner - is it a swiss knife for computers, it should be preinstalled on every computer, a problem solver.
    2. WiseCare365 Free - obviously, that is why I use it and you do not need to buy Pro version, Free has it all.
    3. Glary Utilities - GUI looks old, but it has some great tools: boot defrag and task scheduler startup manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    My opinion is not to use any optimizers. You should be creating Images of your system as you go along, and if your running in to problems just restore a Image from before the issue.

    That depends, what you consider as a system optimizer. Those "optimizers" includes various tools like HDD defrag, a deeper uninstall manager. Microsoft does not have a patent for creating the best apps, just look at IE, WMP, so why use the default tools? It is OK, if you satisfied, if something just works, but if you want something more, there are better alternatives. Creating an image or reinstal do not solve problems, they avoid them by going back, but problems tend to keep appearing again, if you keep using computer the same way.
    Well for a few years I did use Diskeeper, Then during my time with Windows 7 I found the built in defragger was actually Diskeeper lite and actual kept my disk defragged. As far as Registry cleaners I've had bad luck with them years ago, I suppose that now days they may be a lot better. I just think since I keep all my data on separate disk from my OS its just as easy to restore an image of C:\ than to attempt fix a bungled Registry or defective drivers that refuse to uninstall.
    If an application is causing problems I find another application to accomplish the same thing you can trick me twice but the third time is on me.
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  4. #14


    lMiler, Edvin, you are both right. Most of those programs listed are at best maintenance helpers. Of all of them I would give Ccleaner free somewhat passing grade if used carefully and not with default settings. In win XP and before it helped with some tasks because those windows used to dirty system a lot. Fragmentation was pretty rampant and with smaller HDDs that could be a problem. Registry worked different way too. In Win 7, those problems were largely alleviated and with Win8 almost non existent. Tons of software goes thru my HDDs and never seen fragmentation hit over 1% which I ignore of course. Since Win7 I haven't seen any improvement after cleaning registry while in XP cleaning and even defragmenting registry showed some improvement. Right now the best thing for system cleanliness is to use a good uninstaller that would clean up "tails" most programs leave by mistake, sloppiness or even by design. Even registry cleaners can not clean registry as good because after a program is uninstalled regular way, tails in registry can hardly be recognized what program they used to belong to and can clean up only glaringly wrong entries. Cleaning some other things like browser history and cache can slow down loading those sites again and cleaning cookies would lead to having to enter password every time you go to sites that requires log in. Those are just some things why I don't like programs like that and not the least concern they may (and it happens) that some shared .dll or other stuff can be misidentified and removed leaving program it shared or belong to in non functioning state.
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  5. #15


    Trnava
    Posts : 683
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64


    This forum itself proofs, that Windows is far from being perfect and still needs optimizers.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    This forum itself proofs, that Windows is far from being perfect and still needs optimizers.
    Nothing here that I heard of proves optimizers like this are needed but that Windows are perfect, that they certainly are not. nobody claimed that either.
    There are a lot of benchmark programs out there, did anybody try to benchmark their computer before and after so called speedthemuppers ? Well, maybe my system was not dirty enough but when I did that, results were on the level of statistical error.
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  7. #17


    Trnava
    Posts : 683
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64


    Optimizers are not really about speeding up computer, more like a complex maintenance.
    I used to have various problems and just by running CCleaner, the problems were gone.

    Half of advises on this forums advice users to do, what optimizers do by default to prevent problems, like cleaning metro cache or thumbnail cache, flushing DNS cache, doing some registry tweaks, cleaning registry in order to be able to install lets say a different AV and so on. They just make it easier, simpler with a nice GUI.
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  8. #18


    Just so I don't have to run benchmarks again with bunch of useless programs installed and uninstalled here's an example of one of those program's influence: Benchmarked: Will a ?Game Booster? Improve Your PC Gaming Performance?
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  9. #19


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    The best system organiser is actually YOU (a Human!!!)

    I don't like any of these sort of programs such as registry cleaners, tuneup pc or whatever -- often they come with adware or worse. If your system is running really slowly do a complete windows install again.

    I keep all my extra programs that I want to install after the Windows install in a folder - Installable apps - together with the updates and serials if appropriate. Then I just go down the list and re-install -- doesn't take long at all.

    You can also save the Ms updates too so you don't have to download several GB of Ms fixes too.

    Regular backups also help -- if you install something that doesn't work or does something to the system just restore your previous backup. I'd always take backups before installing software for the first time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    The best system organiser is actually YOU (a Human!!!)

    I don't like any of these sort of programs such as registry cleaners, tuneup pc or whatever -- often they come with adware or worse. If your system is running really slowly do a complete windows install again.

    I keep all my extra programs that I want to install after the Windows install in a folder - Installable apps - together with the updates and serials if appropriate. Then I just go down the list and re-install -- doesn't take long at all.

    You can also save the Ms updates too so you don't have to download several GB of Ms fixes too.

    Regular backups also help -- if you install something that doesn't work or does something to the system just restore your previous backup. I'd always take backups before installing software for the first time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Exactly My Thoughts, Thanks for put it so eloquently
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