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Can't register legacy software in fresh windows 8.1

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    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit

    Can't register legacy software in fresh windows 8.1


    Hello!

    I use a really really old music production mastering software called t-racks 24 which I'm dependant on and I don't want to buy a new version because of this. I really like the old version and see no reason to stop using it. Considering it being so old I wouldn't expect any support from the company.

    Installing and registering it in windows 8 is no problem, and it still works after upgrading to windows 8.1. But on my other desktop pc I did a fresh installation of windows 8 and did the upgrade to 8.1 first thing before installing any other apps. And now I'm screwed. I can't register because my digital ID is completely wrong. It is supposed to have random letters and numbers but all I get is AAAAAAAA-AAAA-AAAA-AAAA-AAAAAAAA. I found a really old cached question from a FAQ about the same problem but for Windows Vista and the answer was to run it in compatibility mode. I've tried all compatibility modes, both with and without admin rights, but it doesn't help.

    I think it is really strange that it works in windows 8 and 8.1 IF it is installed prior to upgrading to 8.1. I did a crosscheck by installing windows 8 on an empty partition, installed T-racks, and then upgraded to 8.1 and it works. I can of course always keep in mind to perform it like this when I do a fresh re-install of windows, but I just got windows 8.1 set up on an SSD and have installed all applications I use and it would be nice to not have to re-install everything again just because of one single application. And also if I plan to get a device that ships with windows 8.1 (like the surface pro 2) I need to have another solution.

    Have a nice day!

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  2. #2


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Best guess is its related to something that is installed by default in 8 but not in a clean install of 8.1. An older version of Dot Net Framework or something similar. If you can find a list of the minimum system requirements for that program you get a hint as to what is missing in action.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    It might, but I've installed dot net 3.5 and 4 because it is needed for other software I use. These are the minimum requirements:

    Minimal: Intel® Pentium® 200 MHz MMX with Windows® 95/98/ME/XP, Windows® NT 4.0, Windows® 2000, 32MB RAM and high-quality sound card. Screen settings: 800x600, high colors (16 bit).

    Reading this feels like reading an old scripture.
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    OK, like I said best guess? Wish I could be more help but that's all I could think of. It would be a bit tedious but you could compare what's enabled under "Turn Windows features On and Off" on Windows 8 versus Windows 8.1
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    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Yes, this is really hard to troubleshoot. I compared the windows features list and they are 100% identical.

    I have also tried disabling driver signature enforcement and disabling defender. This is one of the weirdest things I've ever experienced as a long time windows user (since 3.1)
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Its a bit of a stretch but, Java or Silverlight maybe?
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    Not sure if this will work for your situation but I had a similar issue with some older software which I resolved by installing to the root of C: rather than the Program Files folder. Might be worth a shot.
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    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    There's also 16bit color mode in the compatibility mode that might do the trick. Try Win98/ME + 16bit color + administrator.
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    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Thanks for your ideas! Unfortunately still no luck. Installing in root c: didn't work, neither 16-bit. The more I think of it the more I realize how bad this is. I was really planning on getting a Surface Pro 2 next year to replace both my desktop PC's but this is going to prevent me from that since it's delivered with 8.1. All points to changes of the registry but searching through the registry on both my machines gives me nothing of value.

    It really pisses me off when backwards compatibility is broken. I would happily buy the latest version of the software but the problem is that music production software tend to never have backwards compatibility for songs/projects/presets and T-racks is no exception (tried the demo).
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  10. #10


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by mertzi View Post
    Thanks for your ideas! Unfortunately still no luck. Installing in root c: didn't work, neither 16-bit. The more I think of it the more I realize how bad this is. I was really planning on getting a Surface Pro 2 next year to replace both my desktop PC's but this is going to prevent me from that since it's delivered with 8.1. All points to changes of the registry but searching through the registry on both my machines gives me nothing of value.

    It really pisses me off when backwards compatibility is broken. I would happily buy the latest version of the software but the problem is that music production software tend to never have backwards compatibility for songs/projects/presets and T-racks is no exception (tried the demo).
    The only thing that is better and goes beyond compatibility mode is by using virtual machines. If you install your older software on a XP or Win98 VM running on your Win8 and use it there where it's compatible seems to be the best solution when compatibility mode fails.

    Very good program in creating VM's for home usage:
    https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/fre...are_player/6_0

    Example, install XP in a VM in VMware Player:
    Installing Windows XP - Full tutorial

    Virtualization tutorials here on EightForums:
    Link

    With problems related to virtual machine you might post the question/topic here:
    Virtualization - Windows 8 Forums
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