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Can't register legacy software in fresh windows 8.1

  1. #11


    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    The only thing that is better and goes beyond compatibility mode is by using virtual machines. If you install your older software on a XP or Win98 VM running on your Win8 and use it there where it's compatible seems to be the best solution when compatibility mode fails.

    Very good program in creating VM's for home usage:
    https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/fre...are_player/6_0

    Example, install XP in a VM in VMware Player:
    Installing Windows XP - Full tutorial

    Virtualization tutorials here on EightForums:
    Link

    With problems related to virtual machine you might post the question/topic here:
    Virtualization - Windows 8 Forums
    Thanks! I'm going to give this a try. I think I tried this 3 years ago when I went from XP to Windows 7 when I had similar problems but I got driver issues with my audio card. For most music production software you need to use special drivers called Asio and I never got it to work. But all software I use can be run in XP so I'm going to give it a shot again.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    OK VMWare is pretty awesome and much easier than I expected. Just choose an iso and everything is go! I installed an old slipstreamed XP which boots in notime, especially when suspended, but then I realised that T-Racks is so old that it can run in windows 95. Would I benefit anything speed wise by running windows 95, 98 or 2000 instead of XP?

    I have windows 8 on an SSD and I put the virtual machines in c:, was that a bad idea? If I put it on my HDD d: drive (a caviar blue sata 3) will it work slower? And regarding the virtual machines folder, can I copy it to a backup drive and import it in vmware on another PC?

    And finally regarding ASIO, I only need VMWare for T-racks which isn't dependent on ASIO to run well, so it's not a catastrophe. I can use a tool called Asio4All if I really need it.
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  3. #13


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Glad to see it running.

    Quote Originally Posted by mertzi
    T-Racks is so old that it can run in windows 95. Would I benefit anything speed wise by running windows 95, 98 or 2000 instead of XP?
    Not really. It would just work better if the compatibility is better than in XP. Otherwise you can stay on XP, speed wise and depending on preferences XP should be better, especially if it's slipstreamed wisely.

    Quote Originally Posted by mertzi
    I have windows 8 on an SSD and I put the virtual machines in c:, was that a bad idea? If I put it on my HDD d: drive (a caviar blue sata 3) will it work slower? And regarding the virtual machines folder, can I copy it to a backup drive and import it in vmware on another PC?
    Again, if you really need the extra gained boot seconds, leave it on c: if not use the hdd. This part is not that important since VMware can play VMs from many different folders. It's the SSD that would be used more in this case. If it's me I'd run it from the HDD, no rush. If you are in a hurry, use the SSD, there are no issues with this.
    Yes you can copy the VM as backup and even play it on another computer, that's one of the main advantages.

    Regards,
    Hopachi
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  4. #14


    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    I must consider this solved since the VMWare solution is pretty elegant and also future proof. I was going to try with windows 98 but the installation process is not worth it, floppy image and whatnot. If I suspend the VM XP it boots in 3 seconds (I have measured) and that's the same amount of time it normally takes to start T-Racks, and I just leave it running in XP before suspending. VMware was a very uplifting new experience. Thanks for all your ideas and help!
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  5. #15


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    You're welcome.

    Glad to see it solved!
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  6. #16


    Posts : 23
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Hello!

    This thread is pretty old but by random I found the exact cause for the original problem and felt an urge to share.
    The bad guy: UEFI!
    I recently bought a new intel NUC and installed Windows 7 pro 64-bit in UEFI mode because it has an SSD. I chose Windows 7 since I'm only going to use this machine for music production and figured that I'd rather be able to run all legacy software without using a VM than avoiding Aero (angst!). Then to my surprise after installing windows 7 and running all windows updates I still couldn't install the program which didn't work in 8.1, and it has always worked in Windows 7. Then I tried Windows 8 (not 8.1) which the software also worked with, but same problem. Then it hit me, the PC's where it originally worked was running windows from HDD's in non UEFI. So I installed windows 8.1 pro 64-bit but didn't chose UEFI and voila, now it works!
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