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help on Windows crApp Store

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    help on Windows crApp Store


    windows 8 is one of thee most confusing Os's to date.

    the crApp Store is so difficult to use, please help me clear things up;

    1) it seems to me that each version of wibdows 8 has its own app store and it seemse that if I am logged in under my local account that I will get different apps then if I am logged in with my Microsoft account Is this true? if so why?.

    2) I try to search for an app and can never find it, but yet, I can go to the apps website and get a direct link to the app store, click link, link to the store, and install it.
    Again, Windows 8 is horrid when it comes to the App Store. why why why is it so flakey?

    I have 7 different windows machines (not because I think win 8 is great, it sucks) however,
    if I go to install a free app or purchased app, it forces me to unassociate one of my systems, even if that app is not used on the machine. This is so *ffing confusing. Why is it set up like this. If it is free I should be able to use it anywhere on any machine and not even be associated.

    I also hate when it shows free apps as purchased apps when they are not indeed not purchases. grrr,

    3) Also, is there a way I can just view my Microsoft account to see what purchases or registered items I have made?
    with regards to purchased upgrades, purchased apps, or items I have currently registered with them?
    If not then why can't I?

    any other business Acer, Newegg, Amazon, etc. can provide transactions histories, why can't Microsoft?

    my friends with iphones can

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  2. #2


    Israel
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    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro (RTM)


    I agree with you.

    Windows 8 price is not worth the functions Microsoft integrated into Windows 8.

    For seeing some apps you can try change the store country/zone to US/UK.
    (Also look at store preferences to make it easier to find apps)
    For using Microsoft account on Store, WIN+C > SETTINGS > ACCOUNT. Configure at your own.

    Also 7 different windows machines? What do you mean by 7 different windows machines, and how come the windows knows about those machines? are they separately from your PC or they part of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxeyas View Post
    I agree with you.

    Windows 8 price is not worth the functions Microsoft integrated into Windows 8.

    For seeing some apps you can try change the store country/zone to US/UK.
    (Also look at store preferences to make it easier to find apps)
    For using Microsoft account on Store, WIN+C > SETTINGS > ACCOUNT. Configure at your own.

    Also 7 different windows machines? What do you mean by 7 different windows machines, and how come the windows knows about those machines? are they separately from your PC or they part of it?
    We have 7 machines on our home network (4 win8 & 3 win7) , but using Teamviewer I also have 5 other individuals/couples that I assist and we have different functions we do together, 3 of them have windows 8 and several of my purchased apps I share with them...

    My understanding is a purchased app can be shared with 5 different machines. Well, that is not the case it seems as as though any one Windows 8 account you have, only, allows you to share with 5 other Windows 8 machines (that is just wrong). I should be able to share with hundreds of windows 8 machines, the individual apps should only be allowed shares with 5 machines, unless I am doing something wrong.

    And Again why are free apps showing up as purchased apps? My microsoft account doesn't even show the actual apps I truly purchased, nor does it show my registered versions of Windows 8 or 7, nor does it show my registration of Office 365, it is pathetic and next to useless.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 22,576
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Karter,

    Answers inline.

    Hope this helps.


    Quote Originally Posted by KarterJK View Post
    1) it seems to me that each version of wibdows 8 has its own app store and it seemse that if I am logged in under my local account that I will get different apps then if I am logged in with my Microsoft account Is this true? if so why?
    Apps are owned by each Microsoft account, so apps are not shared by default between the different Microsoft accounts on the local PC.

    The Store will also only show apps available for your specific region and language.

    You must be signed into the Store with a Microsoft account to be able to install apps from the Store.


    Quote Originally Posted by KarterJK View Post
    2) I try to search for an app and can never find it, but yet, I can go to the apps website and get a direct link to the app store, click link, link to the store, and install it.
    Again, Windows 8 is horrid when it comes to the App Store. why why why is it so flakey?

    I have 7 different windows machines (not because I think win 8 is great, it sucks) however,
    if I go to install a free app or purchased app, it forces me to unassociate one of my systems, even if that app is not used on the machine. This is so *ffing confusing. Why is it set up like this. If it is free I should be able to use it anywhere on any machine and not even be associated.

    I also hate when it shows free apps as purchased apps when they are not indeed not purchases. grrr,

    This may be from app localization being enabled from above as well. You might see if the tutorial below may be able to help some as well.

    It looks like they just used a generic "Purchased" template for all installed apps, free or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarterJK View Post
    3) Also, is there a way I can just view my Microsoft account to see what purchases or registered items I have made?
    with regards to purchased upgrades, purchased apps, or items I have currently registered with them?
    If not then why can't I?

    any other business Acer, Newegg, Amazon, etc. can provide transactions histories, why can't Microsoft?

    my friends with iphones can

    While in the Store, you can right click or press and hold on an empty area of the Store to see the Your apps option to see all apps you have ever installed for the Microsoft account that you are currently signed into the Store with.
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    Some more great answers, Shawn. :thumbup:

    The word "purchase" does not only mean to acquire or obtain by means of payment. It also means simply to obtain or acquire for one's possession. In this case download and install.

    One may have "purchased" an app for free that presently have a price on them. One does not need to pay the price to download it again in case one has to. They are regarded as purchased. Nor does one need to pay the price again of a app at cost. They are also regarded as purchased and ready to download again.

    Geez... Did I explain that right?
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    64-bit Windows 10


    Sounds good to me Tony.
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  7. #7


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    Windows 7 - Linux (Ubuntu & Zorin) - XP


    As I originally said

    Windows 8 is the MOST CONFUSING OS to date, and they wonder why people hate it.

    I hate it even more now, that you have given me the answers, why should I have to view a tutorial to do simple tasks?.... it is truly an abomination.... I aslo feel, the microsoft account information is totally wrong, I go to my account and it does not show me what I have purchased.

    thanks for the attempt
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  8. #8


    Posts : 22,576
    64-bit Windows 10


    Karter,

    Anytime there is a major change in how an OS is used like this, there will be confusion until you learn and get comfortable with it. Have patience mate, or stick with what you love (ex: Windows 7) until ready to make the switch.

    When you open the Store from your Start screen while signed in to your Microsoft account, and look at "Your apps", you should see all apps that you have installed/purchased from the Store for only that specific Microsoft account. What do you see instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Karter,

    Anytime there is a major change in how an OS is used like this, there will be confusion until you learn and get comfortable with it. Have patience mate, or stick with what you love (ex: Windows 7) until ready to make the switch.

    When you open the Store from your Start screen while signed in to your Microsoft account, and look at "Your apps", you should see all apps that you have installed/purchased from the Store for only that specific Microsoft account. What do you see instead?
    Here in lies the rub,

    Yes, one can see the apps....it comes up first on mine with 83 NOT installed however, these are garbage apps that were loaded during the install process, they are not apps I purchased with my account nor are they free apps I installed with my account, and they don't give you an option to show ONLY installed apps, and they don't give you an option to see the apps you installed if they were free or purchased. Mine shows 109 stupid apps that are mostly crap Apps.

    nor does this account show, any versions of registered Windows Software I have (it should)
    nor does it show any other Microsoft software I registered (example my Windows Office)

    it is just stupid garbage thrown up on a screen, to make you think it is something great. This is why I HATE WINDOWS 8 because of useless menus that really don't tell you anything at all.

    SORRY Windows 8 is a loser .... if they want to make us purchase items via the Store, then they had better damn well show everything .... who it was purchased from, how much, a transaction ID, date acquired and contact numbers, and machines it is currently installed on. ACCOUNTABILITY is what I want from Microsoft, and they run from it like little babies. I want real account information, just like my bank statement.
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  10. #10


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Windows 8 does not come with 83 apps from the Store installed, so you must have installed them yourself at one point. One thing you must understand is that "Your apps" in the Store will only show you a list of apps that you installed from the Store while signed in to that specific Microsoft account. Having "All apps" selected in the first drop down in "Your apps" will show you all apps installed by the Microsoft account you are currently signed into the Store with.

    Any desktop programs (ex: Office) you installed will still be listed in Programs and Features (Control Panel) just like it was in previous versions of Windows.

    If you would calm down and simple ask any questions you may have instead of ranting, then it'll help you faster learn more about the differences in Windows 8 to give it a fair testing.

    Otherwise, I would recommend to stick with Windows 7 or whatever OS you are happy with instead. No one is forcing Windows 8 upon you.
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