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StarDock releases ModernMix for Windows 8

  1. #11


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    ModernMix is a a great Windows 8 utility, particularly for those running Windows 8 with large displays. I've been calling Windows 8 "Windows 2" due to the current (now previous) restriction of displaying only 2 modern Windows 8 apps at a time in a 1/3 - 2/3 screen layout.

    The other benefit of ModernMix is that when you run modern apps on the desktop, the taskbar is now visible. This allows you to see app notifications, the clock, and access other apps and functions quickly.

    Big +1 for ModernMix and Stardock!

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting10 View Post
    What a shame that the pinned-to-taskbar icon doesn't have the live tile updates (a pinned mail app doesn't tell me I have '1 new mail' for example). I guess I'll stick to using the Start Screen's live tiles.
    Now you ask too much.
    But is something very nice if they decide to make this. Still a bit small to be readable.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting10 View Post
    What a shame that the pinned-to-taskbar icon doesn't have the live tile updates (a pinned mail app doesn't tell me I have '1 new mail' for example). I guess I'll stick to using the Start Screen's live tiles.
    Now you ask too much.
    But is something very nice if they decide to make this. Still a bit small to be readable.
    Yeah, I don't know that much about windows, but I don't think this would ever happen.

    I take it that the icons on the task bar are simply that, icons. The program loads the prescribed icon from some location, which the user can choose, when loading. Could one way to do it be for, say the mail app, to change the icon, wherever it is stored, for when it gets a new mail. The only way that would take affect on the taskbar is for explorer to restart. So would I be right in saying it is possible, but you would need explorer to restart to see a change (you would want it to restart regularly for the mail app), or am I talking out my ass!?
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  4. #14


    On a side note, do you think, overall, this is a good thing or a bad thing for app developers.

    Say now if you were working in firefox on their metro/modern app that you can get through the nightly version. Wouldn't you be sitting there yesterday, as ModernMix was released, thinking what the hell am I even doing. If this things kicks off, people are going to use this app on the desktop. So why wouldn't they just use the desktop browser which is infinitely superior to the modern app version. You would just be sitting there thinking what the hell is the point!! Such a waste of time! I'm just going to go home early and cry for the rest of the day! The quick answer would be to have a 'touchier' big button version of the desktop browser that can be switched on off, like what chrome does. In that case, is it worth firefox's time and energy to keep developing their modern app?

    On the other hand, 'non-techie' new windows 8 buyers are not going to know or be interested or even know what ModernMix means. Your uncle or aunty type who doesn't know how to copy and paste! That will probably apply to the majority of buyers. They will just use windows 8 as it comes. Meaning they will be using the store apps in modern mode. Leaving Firefox in the position they were two days ago, we have no modern app, it would be wise and sensible to have one to enhance our visibility etc.

    So app developers are probably going through a bit soul searching at the moment!!
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Downloaded (paid for) and up and running. If you are looking for a program that will make your Modern Apps run like desktop programs then this is the way to go. The trail version is only half-assed so I went with the full paid and it works as advertized.

    Good thus far. . .knock on wood. . .

    This should have been posted as "News" that way this information would get out to more folks who are looking for new ways to help improve their work in win 8.

    What features don't work with the trial (beta) version?
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by jq25 View Post
    On a side note, do you think, overall, this is a good thing or a bad thing for app developers.

    Say now if you were working in firefox on their metro/modern app that you can get through the nightly version. Wouldn't you be sitting there yesterday, as ModernMix was released, thinking what the hell am I even doing. If this things kicks off, people are going to use this app on the desktop. So why wouldn't they just use the desktop browser which is infinitely superior to the modern app version. You would just be sitting there thinking what the hell is the point!! Such a waste of time! I'm just going to go home early and cry for the rest of the day! The quick answer would be to have a 'touchier' big button version of the desktop browser that can be switched on off, like what chrome does. In that case, is it worth firefox's time and energy to keep developing their modern app?

    On the other hand, 'non-techie' new windows 8 buyers are not going to know or be interested or even know what ModernMix means. Your uncle or aunty type who doesn't know how to copy and paste! That will probably apply to the majority of buyers. They will just use windows 8 as it comes. Meaning they will be using the store apps in modern mode. Leaving Firefox in the position they were two days ago, we have no modern app, it would be wise and sensible to have one to enhance our visibility etc.

    So app developers are probably going through a bit soul searching at the moment!!
    To be perfectly honest I expect Microsoft to block third party applications such as Modern Mix and '7 Explorer For 8', ones which specifically workaround their vision for Windows 8, with future Windows Updates. In the same way that the registry teak to re-enable Start Menu stopped working in-between the developer preview and the consumer preview, when MS aggressively removed legacy code etc. Or how, when I used a 3rd party theme patcher, a bunch of Windows Updates came along which stopped the boot into Windows from happening with a flashing black screen (I had to reinstall Win7 and then re-upgrade to Win8).

    With 'Windows Blue' on the way, and MS doing more 'waves' of services and updates more quickly in general, rather than the usual 3-4 year 'new OS' refresh, I am less confident in hacking the OS this time around. For instance, to save myself a buttload of money I would purchase a Surface RT and then jailbreak it into a Surface Pro, if I wasn't sure that MS would release an update which would 'brick' any hacked Surface RTs.
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  7. #17


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting10 View Post

    To be perfectly honest I expect Microsoft to block third party applications such as Modern Mix and '7 Explorer For 8', ones which specifically workaround their vision for Windows 8, with future Windows Updates. In the same way that the registry teak to re-enable Start Menu stopped working in-between the developer preview and the consumer preview, when MS aggressively removed legacy code etc. Or how, when I used a 3rd party theme patcher, a bunch of Windows Updates came along which stopped the boot into Windows from happening with a flashing black screen (I had to reinstall Win7 and then re-upgrade to Win8).

    Doubt it. A legit 3rd party application is a bit different than people just flat out registry hacking on their own.

    Kudos to Stardock though, this is how an app based system should work on a desktop OS. And had Microsoft done something like this from the beginning, the acceptance would've been tenfold. Maybe someday MS will wake up, most likely not - but at least I'll have Stardock.
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  8. #18


    On another note that app developers might heed, is that now that apps can run on desktop, their app actually feels much more, legitimate isn't quite the work, but important or something. Like the TuneIn radio app say, it isn't just a boring lame background app, it now feels like a full fledged desktop program. If the idea of windows 8 didn't exist yet, do you think TuneIn Radio would be interested or bothered to make an actual desktop program, I don't think so. Now they in essence, if not technical functionality, have a full desktop program, which looks significantly better than a traditional desktop program or even their website.

    A question for developers: - take the case of TuneIn radio app, pretending they hadn't made an app, if they were to decide between making a desktop program or a windows 8 app with identical features now, which in general would be easier or faster to make?
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by jq25 View Post
    On another note that app developers might heed, is that now that apps can run on desktop, their app actually feels much more, legitimate isn't quite the work, but important or something. Like the TuneIn radio app say, it isn't just a boring lame background app, it now feels like a full fledged desktop program. If the idea of windows 8 didn't exist yet, do you think TuneIn Radio would be interested or bothered to make an actual desktop program, I don't think so. Now they in essence, if not technical functionality, have a full desktop program, which looks significantly better than a traditional desktop program or even their website.

    A question for developers: - take the case of TuneIn radio app, pretending they hadn't made an app, if they were to decide between making a desktop program or a windows 8 app with identical features now, which in general would be easier or faster to make?

    Yep, it's a win/win all around. And the people that don't see it this way are truly brainwashed by Microsoft's ideology. App developer's are going to see downloads increase quite a bit, because they are actually functional in a desktop environment without hindering productivity. They were a waste of time and screen real-estate for me before but I've installed and even purchased quite a few in the last hour even, simply because of a $4.99 Stardock program. Restrictive crap can now be kept on the restrictive device where it belongs...the tablet and phone. And, FINALLY I can use a multi-display setup the way it SHOULD be used.
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  10. #20


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    Sad that MS are relying on 3rd parties to fix their weird UI.
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