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    Microsoft Office 2010 to 2013 upgrade offer.


    I have a qualifying copy of Office 2010 Home and Small Business.

    Recently I just claimed the offer. But how about the old copy? Will it be invalidated instantly if I install the 2013 version? I'm not sure if I will like my 2013, so would like the ability to go back to 2010 if possible.

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    I'd be a bit wary of Office 2013. I read that Microsoft has changed the licencing so that Office 2013 is licensed for a single PC only and that the license may never be transferred. Which means if you upgrade or buy a new computer, you need to buy Office again!

    Here you go:
    Microsoft: Office 2013 license is for just one PC, FOREVER ? The Register
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    Yeah, that's kinda sad and draconian move by Microsoft. I like them but it's getting irritating lately.
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    What I don't quite understand are the technicalities of 'licencing', according to Microsoft. If you purchase a copy of Office 2013, you purchase a licence to use it on one PC and not transferable. If you purchase a copy of Office 365, you purchase a licence to use it on five PCs and transferable (get rid of an old PC and buy a new PC and transfer the licence). So when is a licence not a licence?

    Office 2013 is defined as a licence: Microsoft Software License Agreement - Office.com

    Office 365 is defined as a licence: Microsoft Software License Terms for Office - Office.com
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    A EULA (end user license agrement) can say anything it wants. You don't own the software, you get the right to use that software in a manner dictated by the manufacturer of said software. If they want to make 1 version not transferable, and 1 version that is transferable they have the right to do so. You, as the consumer have the right to not agree to those terms and thus not use the software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    A EULA (end user license agrement) can say anything it wants. You don't own the software, you get the right to use that software in a manner dictated by the manufacturer of said software. If they want to make 1 version not transferable, and 1 version that is transferable they have the right to do so. You, as the consumer have the right to not agree to those terms and thus not use the software.
    I understand that, but there are two issues here. Firstly, you don't really get to read the EULA until you've unpackaged and started to install the software. Secondly, it'll be interesting how this stands up in the various courts of different countries. They are both licences and it's the transferability issue that I'm sure will be contested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Firstly, you don't really get to read the EULA until you've unpackaged and started to install the software.
    Directly from the Office 2010 Home and Student EULA. If you don't agree with the EULA, you will get a refund.
    BY USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU ACCEPT THESE TERMS. IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THEM, DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE. INSTEAD, RETURN IT TO THE RETAILER FOR A REFUND OR
    CREDIT. If you cannot obtain a refund there, contact Microsoft or the Microsoft affiliate serving your
    country for information about Microsoft’s refund policies. See Microsoft Worldwide Home. In the
    United States and Canada, call (800) MICROSOFT or see Microsoft North American Retail Product Refund Guidelines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Secondly, it'll be interesting how this stands up in the various courts of different countries. They are both licences and it's the transferability issue that I'm sure will be contested.
    Legally, the EULA can be different in different countries. What applies to me, may not apply to you.

    But people need to read that text before they hit "I Agree". Because otherwise, they have agreed and they don't really have much of a leg to stand on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Firstly, you don't really get to read the EULA until you've unpackaged and started to install the software.
    Directly from the Office 2010 Home and Student EULA. If you don't agree with the EULA, you will get a refund.
    BY USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU ACCEPT THESE TERMS. IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THEM, DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE. INSTEAD, RETURN IT TO THE RETAILER FOR A REFUND OR
    CREDIT. If you cannot obtain a refund there, contact Microsoft or the Microsoft affiliate serving your
    country for information about Microsoft’s refund policies. See Microsoft Worldwide Home. In the
    United States and Canada, call (800) MICROSOFT or see Microsoft North American Retail Product Refund Guidelines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Secondly, it'll be interesting how this stands up in the various courts of different countries. They are both licences and it's the transferability issue that I'm sure will be contested.
    Legally, the EULA can be different in different countries. What applies to me, may not apply to you.

    But people need to read that text before they hit "I Agree". Because otherwise, they have agreed and they don't really have much of a leg to stand on.
    Very, very, few people read the legal blurb. Many wouldn't even understand what it meant, unless someone experienced explained it to them. To date it hasn't been an issue, because you've always been able to install the software onto a new computer. As I said, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out, outside the US.
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    ddadda82: I took advantage of the 2010 - 2013 offer & the upgrade left the fully functioning Office 2010 where it was & simply installed 2013, so I can use either as I wish unfortunately, yet again the shortcuts & Macros don't simply port across so it took me half a day of faffing about to get them back again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Very, very, few people read the legal blurb. Many wouldn't even understand what it meant, unless someone experienced explained it to them.
    Nobody reads it, I know that. But that doesn't mean they get off scott free. People need to be accountable for their actions and it's something that frankly nobody does anymore. Nobody ever thinks anything is there fault.

    And yes, this is a shocking change to the agreement and one that I missed for quite some time. That's why I started a thread on this very topic on this forum. I warned my friends and colleagues about the change on Facebook. I even drafted an email to all employees at my company explaining the ramifications of the this new licensing agreement and took the time to explain to them what Office 365 was.

    Frankly, MS has done the worlds most piss poor marketing of all time on Office 365. Everybody thinks its "Office in the cloud". Nobody has a flipping clue what it even entails, or how it works. Even hardcore techies on this site threw up their hands and said, "I'm not running office in the cloud".
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