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  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    I have been playing with libre office 4.0. And for a free office suite it is not bad at all and every file opens in word PowerPoint or Excel with no problems as long as you save it in the right format. It is a good alternative for those who want a free office suite that actually mimics Microsoft office
    Hi there
    as far as EXCEL is concerned Libre Office equivalent isn't much good once you start using a lot of macros and retrieve data dynamically from the Internet

    For example I really can't replicate this relatively simple EXCEL application in Libre Office

    Download the "Puts" and "Calls" for say MSFT from the CBOE -- that's the Option prices for "Puts" and "Calls" for the next periods for MSFT (Microsoft) from the Chicago Board of Options Exchange (rather like NASDAQ or NYSE but for Stock Options rather than actual Stocks).

    This is quite simple to do in EXCEL -- I've looked at Libre office and really had to give up.

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    For the average user, LibreOffice does everything that they may require. For those that need to play power games, you know where to send your cheque.
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    This is quite simple to do in EXCEL -- I've looked at Libre office and really had to give up.
    And that's exactly why I don't use Libre Office . . . so far, it's too different from MS Office and I don't have time to contend with the learning curve.

    However, I have Office 2010, so I don't have to worry about it, now, do I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    I have been playing with libre office 4.0. And for a free office suite it is not bad at all and every file opens in word PowerPoint or Excel with no problems as long as you save it in the right format. It is a good alternative for those who want a free office suite that actually mimics Microsoft office
    Hi there
    as far as EXCEL is concerned Libre Office equivalent isn't much good once you start using a lot of macros and retrieve data dynamically from the Internet

    For example I really can't replicate this relatively simple EXCEL application in Libre Office

    Download the "Puts" and "Calls" for say MSFT from the CBOE -- that's the Option prices for "Puts" and "Calls" for the next periods for MSFT (Microsoft) from the Chicago Board of Options Exchange (rather like NASDAQ or NYSE but for Stock Options rather than actual Stocks).

    This is quite simple to do in EXCEL -- I've looked at Libre office and really had to give up.

    Screenshot enc

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Just wondering Jimbo, are you a stockbroker? There are more threads around here where you use the example of viewing stock quotes in Excel.

    Greetz,
    Rover
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Snoober View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    I have been playing with libre office 4.0. And for a free office suite it is not bad at all and every file opens in word PowerPoint or Excel with no problems as long as you save it in the right format. It is a good alternative for those who want a free office suite that actually mimics Microsoft office
    Hi there
    as far as EXCEL is concerned Libre Office equivalent isn't much good once you start using a lot of macros and retrieve data dynamically from the Internet

    For example I really can't replicate this relatively simple EXCEL application in Libre Office

    Download the "Puts" and "Calls" for say MSFT from the CBOE -- that's the Option prices for "Puts" and "Calls" for the next periods for MSFT (Microsoft) from the Chicago Board of Options Exchange (rather like NASDAQ or NYSE but for Stock Options rather than actual Stocks).

    This is quite simple to do in EXCEL -- I've looked at Libre office and really had to give up.

    Screenshot enc

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Just wondering Jimbo, are you a stockbroker? There are more threads around here where you use the example of viewing stock quotes in Excel.

    Greetz,
    Rover
    Hi there

    No I'm not an "Official" stockbroker -- but I do "Amateur" or some part time trading as a hobby -- like some people play poker or mess around with the "gee-gees". I look at the Options - particularly "Weekly Options" where if you do it correctly you can make in good weeks around 3 - 4 % A WEEK -- try getting that in a Bank. -- Small amounts of money only that you can afford to lose if necessary and I only trade on the US exchanges where an option contract is a multiple of 100 shares - unlike Europe where you have do deal in multiples of 1000 and the dealing costs (and taxes) are horrendous.

    Coming up to retirement I need to look at some other income streams now -- I'm not going to be sitting at home just "Gardening".

    I like mathematics and Statistics -- was trained originally as an Engineer so the statistics side of the Stock market ("Technical analysis" ) keeps me interested.

    I've still hopefully got an extension or two left in my current job but I'm getting a bit too old now for all the travelling etc so am looking forward for other ways of supplanting my pension when I get it in the not too distant future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Yes, but if you cannot afford office, than libre is a good alternative for the beginner user who just do simple tasks
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    Well, free offices are good only for personal use, but when it comes to everything else, there is no choise but microsofts office.
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    Yes, but if you cannot afford office, than libre is a good alternative for the beginner user who just do simple tasks
    For simple tasks, yes, Libre Office is probably a good choice.

    But, and it's a huge but (no pun intended), I do extensive research and report work in Word and Excel which is very, very important to an ongoing lawsuit which involves our subdivision. BTW, my research work is on an unpaid volunteer basis, so I think it would qualify as "personal".

    Now, if I were up to speed on Libre Office, I could use it, because my reports are simple Word files and intermediate Excel files. However, the learning curve is such that I just don't have time to learn LibreOffice. Besides, as I said, I have enough copies of Office 2010 that I don't have to look elsewhere.

    Though, if I only had a choice between Office 2013 and Libre Office, I'd have to go with Libre, simply because of the new restrictive and expensive licensing fees for Office.
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    If you've used the versions of Office prior to the introduction of the 'Ribbon', then LibreOffice has the same interface of the previous versions of Office. Just comparing the two side by side, and even after using the new Word style for so many years, LibreOffice is so much simpler in so many ways.

    For example, if you want to insert a section break, in LibreOffice you simply click on the 'insert' button and then select 'section' from the dropdown box and set it up. In Office 2010, this is located under 'page layout', but if you want to insert a header/footer, that's not under 'page layout', but under 'insert'.

    And there are many other such oddities, at least to me, in how functions and settings are arranged. This was another one of those menu changes where a lot of people wanted a choice of old style over new, but were not given a choice. Even after so many years, I know that people can take much longer to do things, because the Ribbon menu is not quite as intuitive as was perhaps the more visually bland menu of yesteryear.
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    Too many years have passed between having used Office 2003 and today. So, although Libre Office may well be a lot like Office 2003, I am accustomed to Office 2010 and how things work there; thus, I literally don't have the time nor the inclination to learn Libre Office. BTW, I have tried both Open Office and Libre Office several times.

    Why should I when things are working well for me now, and I can get my work done without problems. And, I'm well past the point of having to hunt for things on the ribbon. And if I need to know how to do something new works, I have Microsoft Office Professional 2010 Step by Step I can look things up in, or I can use Professor Teaches Microsoft Office 2010.

    As my grandson says, "No thanks, I'm good."
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