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Office 2013 to be the last non subscription version

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by mwhals View Post
    Think again on corporate. Most companies kept Windows XP until Windows 7. Heck, we are just now going to Windows 7. Companies were on Office 2003 for years and we just now upgraded to Office 2010. Companies use enterprise licenses, so if those went away companies would stick with the old. At least mine would.
    that is not entirely true. Microsoft Volume Licensing will probably never go away. Most big companies have Software Assurance through MS. They will upgrade as often as they see a reason to do so, without question. If there is a reason for big corporates to move to 2013, they will do it. It's part of the Software Assurance contract with MS.

    Microsoft Volume Licensing - Microsoft Software Assurance

    Also be aware that a lot of companies have this available,,, Microsoft Volume Licensing - Microsoft Software Assurance Benefits - Home Use Program

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mwhals View Post
    Think again on corporate. Most companies kept Windows XP until Windows 7. Heck, we are just now going to Windows 7. Companies were on Office 2003 for years and we just now upgraded to Office 2010. Companies use enterprise licenses, so if those went away companies would stick with the old. At least mine would.
    that is not entirely true. Microsoft Volume Licensing will probably never go away. Most big companies have Software Assurance through MS. They will upgrade as often as they see a reason to do so, without question. If there is a reason for big corporates to move to 2013, they will do it. It's part of the Software Assurance contract with MS.

    Microsoft Volume Licensing - Microsoft Software Assurance

    Also be aware that a lot of companies have this available,,, Microsoft Volume Licensing - Microsoft Software Assurance Benefits - Home Use Program
    Not my Fortune 500 company. They do not upgrade very often due to cost and compatibility issues with proprietary software.
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka Dal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka Dal View Post
    Question? If I subscribe to Office 365 can I use it on any computer?
    Meaning only one subscription...
    Only if it is running Windows.
    That's cool so £8/month instead of ££££ for 5 computers. I'll save loads!
    Your Maths could eventually fail

    100 GBP a year (approx.) + VAT in 5 years assuming the subscription doesn't rise (and how many times have you paid for a subscription service where the price remains the same indefinitely) will be OVER 750 GBP. !!! (more with say typical inflation annual increases say around 2 - 3% --although they might sweeten the pill by allowing renewals at a cheaper rate).

    We also don't know if the subscription is COMPUTER based in which case you'll have a hassle when changing / upgrading computers or IMO a better option if you really are going to buy a subscription - USER based - like TechNet - so you could use Office 365 anywhere --even in an Internet Café.

    Office 2010 works on 3 computers, Office 2007 can still be got for around 25 GBP which also works on 3 computers -- and considering for a HOME user there really isn't anything new in any version of office after 2007 that is of significance to a typical home user other than say Touch or links to social media like facebook or online services like skydrive.

    Considering also if you qualify as a student or your work is a member of the "Use at Home" service or has a policy of use your own device where they would have a license to install the Enterprise version on your PC the subscription model is a BAD DEAL.

    Trouble is people don't understand LONG TERM -- especially if they are used to the US big business mentality which often can't see further than into the middle of next week.

    A small subscription might sound trivially cheap --but measured over a decent time span it becomes expensive.

    In my country if you were a typical Smoker who has say smoked for 30 years -- the amount you could have saved had you never started could have paid for a typical property MORTGAGE FREE. (I'm not suggesting you change what you want to do here --just pointing out how what perhaps seems a smallish amount of money can mount up to over a long period).

    If it wasn't profitable for companies why would they bother with the subscription model.

    Anyway I'm not taking part in this particular gig. Office 2010 indefinitely for me unless I eventually switch to say Linux Mint and Libre Office.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #24


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    It's always cheaper to buy a perpetual license. I'll probably buy a copy of 2010 before it disappears just to avoid problems later on with the single activation/locked version but if I had to, I'd buy the single activation before I'd subscribe. I'd prefer just to stick to Microsoft Office, I tried Open Office four years ago and I hated it. But this incarnation of Microsoft Office makes the videogame world of DRM clients and DLC look practically benevolent these days in comparison.

    I was going to buy the 2013 office suite (before I found out it was limited to one pc) and tuck it away somewhere safe until I needed it. Now I won't unless I need it and then it's the perpetual licence- this emphasis on subscription based models will not save you money in the long run. That being said, I don't think they will migrate to subscription only between now and the next office suite.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison View Post
    It's always cheaper to buy a perpetual license. I'll probably buy a copy of 2010 before it disappears just to avoid problems later on with the single activation/locked version but if I had to, I'd buy the single activation before I'd subscribe. I'd prefer just to stick to Microsoft Office, I tried Open Office four years ago and I hated it. But this incarnation of Microsoft Office makes the videogame world of DRM clients and DLC look practically benevolent these days in comparison.

    I was going to buy the 2013 office suite (before I found out it was limited to one pc) and tuck it away somewhere safe until I needed it. Now I won't unless I need it and then it's the perpetual licence- this emphasis on subscription based models will not save you money in the long run. That being said, I don't think they will migrate to subscription only between now and the next office suite.
    Hi there
    I tend to disagree with some posters who think the subscription is cheaper or good value

    I also disagree with the sentiment that Office 2013 will NOT be the last version available on a "perpetual" or non subscription license.-- reasons seem straightforward

    Office 365 is available NOW
    Office 2013 only available on THE INITIAL COMPUTER it's installed on.
    Windows "Blue" rumors.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 18 Feb 2013 at 10:59.
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  6. #26


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    Windows Blue- people are inherently lazy, and as much as I love Windows and Microsoft, unkindly put, it's why it thrives. But if it were to move to a different model such as paid upgrade/expansions and subscription only- it would create an exodus where it was no longer the simple and easy choice. Let me remind you that for the longest time there were rumour the new XBOX 720/whatever its called wasn't going to have a disc drawer- resoundingly quashed. Rumours are just rumours until proved otherwise.
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  7. #27


    I still maintain office 365 is not a bad deal. People often react in an all our nothing way.

    If you can use Libre Office and pay nothing, than do it.

    If you can run 3 copies or less of office 2010 home and student, than do it.

    If you can get a cheap copy of office via "home use program" through your employer, do it.

    If you need/want Office 2013, and you need programs outside of the home and student version, and you have multiple computers to run it on, or you change computers regularly than the subscription model could very well be a compelling cost for you. And if you want to stay on the nest version of office down the road, you won't pay for a perpetual licence again.

    You gotta look at entire picture. You end up with the 400 per pc office 2013 pro suite, that you can run on 5 pcs for 100 a year. It just depends upon whether you need our want these features.

    For my home use,I can use Libre Office, Google docs, or Office web apps for free. And that is what I do. To me, the cost of MS Office is completely unnecessary.
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  8. #28


    It is really hard to beat FREE.

    How to affordably own your office software | ZDNet
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    It is really hard to beat FREE.
    So true, unless the free software simply will not work in ones context. Then free actually comes with a cost.

    Seems like Libre Office or Google Docs would be a very good choice for non-work environments.
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    I have been playing with libre office 4.0. And for a free office suite it is not bad at all and every file opens in word PowerPoint or Excel with no problems as long as you save it in the right format. It is a good alternative for those who want a free office suite that actually mimics Microsoft office
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