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Office 2013 retail is tied to 1 machine forever

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I would do my best to not post hysteria.
    I apologize for the insult. It's not much more polite to suggest irrationality than to accuse someone of lying.

    I guess I couldn't handle the truth.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I would do my best to not post hysteria.
    I apologize for the insult. It's not much more polite to suggest irrationality than to accuse someone of lying.

    I guess I couldn't handle the truth.
    LOL, no offense taken sir. I was shocked myself. I don't think Office 365 is a bad deal at all, but this licensing change for the retail copy was really shocking. And the fact that it was only quietly being discussed was also shocking.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I opened up an Excel file and it seems to have come across perfectly. LibreOffice doesn't have the eye candy of Microsoft Office, but it's not bad. I will have to play with it to see how well it works overall.
    On the Ubuntu forums, folks are constantly complaining about how the ".docx" format doesn't work well in LibreOffice.

    This could simply be a Linux version problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I opened up an Excel file and it seems to have come across perfectly. LibreOffice doesn't have the eye candy of Microsoft Office, but it's not bad. I will have to play with it to see how well it works overall.
    On the Ubuntu forums, folks are constantly complaining about how the ".docx" format doesn't work well in LibreOffice.

    This could simply be a Linux version problem.
    I've now tested LibreOffice 4 (Windows version) with all of my documents and everything works fine, .docx, .pptx etc. The only thing I didn't test was the database, as I haven't used one for ages, so nothing stored. If I still had a very early version of Office, there wouldn't seem to be any reason not to move across to LibreOffice.
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    Sounds like a very good reason to stay with Office 2007/2010. Or I can even go back as far as Office 4.3, if I wish to.
    But this puts Office 2013 firmly into the 'don't want, won't touch' bin, AFAIC. No interest in Office 351 or whatever, either.
    Wenda.
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  6. #16


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    According to the Microsoft activation specialist I talked with today, Office 2013 can be installed on another system in the event of a system crash and or system replacement. You would need to call Microsoft if the activation fails on the second install (to a new or replacement system). They would then provide you with the information required to be able to activate the software again (provided your reason for doing so was valid).

    This is no different then how a 2010 key card product ID/license works now. I have "moved" more than one copy of Office 2010 when a system has crapped out or been stolen. 2013 is no different in this regard. Microsoft is not tying the license to one and only one machine forever, but is much stricter about re-activation of a particular product ID used during the install.

    If Microsoft decided to lock the 2013 license to a particular system, and it was stolen, the ability to install the 2013 product to the replacement system has to be allowed for. It is ridiculous to think a company would not allow a $400 program to be installed one time on one system with no means of re-activation on another system ever.

    If you have Office 2013 installed on your system, you can be assured that it can be re-activated again for valid reasons.

    The wording in the license agreement is there to protect Microsoft and its rights to it's products, and is very restrictive towards the end user. Exceptions to the license agreement can be made by Microsoft at any time.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by JamesF View Post
    According to the Microsoft activation specialist I talked with today, Office 2013 can be installed on another system in the event of a system crash and or system replacement. You would need to call Microsoft if the activation fails on the second install (to a new or replacement system). They would then provide you with the information required to be able to activate the software again (provided your reason for doing so was valid).

    This is no different then how a 2010 key card product ID/license works now. I have "moved" more than one copy of Office 2010 when a system has crapped out or been stolen. 2013 is no different in this regard. Microsoft is not tying the license to one and only one machine forever, but is much stricter about re-activation of a particular product ID used during the install.

    If Microsoft decided to lock the 2013 license to a particular system, and it was stolen, the ability to install the 2013 product to the replacement system has to be allowed for. It is ridiculous to think a company would not allow a $400 program to be installed one time on one system with no means of re-activation on another system ever.

    If you have Office 2013 installed on your system, you can be assured that it can be re-activated again for valid reasons.

    The wording in the license agreement is there to protect Microsoft and its rights to it's products, and is very restrictive towards the end user. Exceptions to the license agreement can be made by Microsoft at any time.
    Well that is not what the EULA says, it's not what all the tech sites say, it's not what the Microsoft forums say, etc.

    I think I'd you had a computer and your mobo crashed and had to be replaced, they might make an exception. If however you buy a laptop to replace a desktop, they are going to say, "sorry you cannot do that, but we will happily sell you office 365 instead".
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    I agree with your statement you made about the EULA. I called to verify how I would re-activate the 2013 installs at my client sites (if there were issues with system replacements, upgrades, etc.) with my Microsoft account rep. He transferred me to the activation specialist I talked with today. The restrictive license is in place because even though many folks say they are moving an Office install to their "new laptop that replaced their desktop", most do not remove the software from the desktop to stay within the existing license terms anyway.

    Reading the "tech" sites, most are reporting that the license "may" prevent "moving/re-installing" to a new system, and also that Microsoft "may" end up back pedaling on the restrictive nature of this license wording.

    Until someone reports that Microsoft refuses to re-activate (for legitimate reasons) a bought and paid for copy of Office 2013, I stand by what I reported.

    I'm sure that I'll be having to "move" a copy of Office 2013 soon enough. I'll report back here if I can't do it for any reason.

    From one "tech" site"

    "The response from Microsoft's public relations firm was simply, "Correct."
    Another question asked whether, under the retail Office 2013 EULA, customers could move the suite -- and its license -- to a replacement PC when the original was lost, stolen or destroyed. Microsoft reply: "No comment.""

    These comments were made by a Microsoft PR (Public Relations) firm, not from Microsoft tech support or licensing/activation specialists.
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  9. #19


    I suppose that Microsoft might permit an office 2013 license to be activated on a new PC, even though the license agreement unambiguously says no. At the least, I'd expect them to have similar requirements to activating an OEM copy of Windows on a system that has been repaired.

    I have read accounts that Microsoft has activated OEM copies of windows on PCs whose "repair" was a total hardware upgrade. Whether that involved prevarication by the PC owner, I can't say. Maybe Microsoft will be at least as forgiving with Office 2013 licenses.

    Call me a stick-in-the-mud, but I'm inclined to take them at their word, when it is clearly defined.
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  10. #20


    Stick in the mud here too. I take what they say as the truth, exceptions are just that. Not going to expect to be an exception.
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