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  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Sorry, but no. You must be signed in to a Microsoft account to be able to download, purchase, and install Metro Store apps.

    It does let you know that you need a Microsoft account when you try to do this with a local account though.

    Them's the breaks I'm afraid.
    I realise that (now), but I thought/expected that I would be automatically signed in after doing so once, even in local mode. It doesn't really matter, however, as the apps are still pretty useless in a desktop environment. So much more could have been achieved, with a little more imagination and consideration for desktop users.
    Nope. Only while signed in to a Microsoft account will you be signed in to the Store or Store apps (when opened) automatically.

    You are able to sign in to the Store with any Microsoft account while signed in to either a local account or Microsoft account though.

    Windows Store - Sign in with Different Microsoft Account in Windows 8

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  2. #22


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Nope. Only while signed in to a Microsoft account will you be signed in to the Store or Store apps (when opened) automatically.

    You are able to sign in to the Store with any Microsoft account while signed in to either a local account or Microsoft account though.
    Again, I understand that; but that's exactly what I'm questioning. Why is it so?
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  3. #23


    One day, we all will be asked to sign in to start our PC/Laptop because the OS is in the "Cloud" and not in our hard drive, we may be asked to pay every time we switch on our PC/Laptop, thanks MS, you just lost another customer.
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  4. #24


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    I can understand having to login to the MS account to visit the app store. That makes sense. But what I don't like is being coerced into SkyDrive every time I want to do something simple, like connect to photos someplace other than my local PC. The Photo app won't let me connect to photos on Facebook unless I do it through SkyDrive. It won't let me just grab photos from a server on my own network. When I use Skype, why can't I just go right to my Skype account? Why does it try to force me to use Skype through an MS account? I find this quite annoying.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Nope. Only while signed in to a Microsoft account will you be signed in to the Store or Store apps (when opened) automatically.

    You are able to sign in to the Store with any Microsoft account while signed in to either a local account or Microsoft account though.
    Again, I understand that; but that's exactly what I'm questioning. Why is it so?
    I don't know what else to say other than because that's just the way Microsoft made it to be.
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  6. #26


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    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post

    I realise that (now), but I thought/expected that I would be automatically signed in after doing so once, even in local mode.
    if you are in local Mode how are the external services supposed to know what your local credentials are? That's the purpose of linking your local account to your MS account, it provides the federated services to allow it work. If you don't like it and don't want to use it then you are going to be asked to authenticate every time, no different than W7 so it should be something you are used to.
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  7. #27


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    Hard to tell how close that day is.

    Not sure if you will have to pay each time you use your pc. That might be an option for low usage.

    I expect there will be a monthly payment.

    MS have lodged patents for their subscription systems - there could be a range of plans/prices/charging structures.

    It makes sense for MS.

    Folk pay monthly for the mobile phones - for their TV.

    Something to look forward to.




    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    One day, we all will be asked to sign in to start our PC/Laptop because the OS is in the "Cloud" and not in our hard drive, we may be asked to pay every time we switch on our PC/Laptop, thanks MS, you just lost another customer.
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    if you are in local Mode how are the external services supposed to know what your local credentials are? That's the purpose of linking your local account to your MS account, it provides the federated services to allow it work. If you don't like it and don't want to use it then you are going to be asked to authenticate every time, no different than W7 so it should be something you are used to.
    If I'm trying to access the app store, then clearly I'm connected to the internet. When I log on to this site, for example, I'm connected to the internet and the cookie that's been stored in my PC authenticates who I am and thus obviates the need to log in. I can do that with any number of sites that require authentication. I can delete those cookies if I wish and then I'm required to authenticate each time.

    Considering that the app store is an integral part of Windows 8, I don't understand why that login/authentication doesn't happen when I log in to my PC. Even If I had to open IE to get to the app store, there's no reason why a cookie couldn't be stored which automatically authenticates who I am and allows full access. Windows 8 is supposed to provide a new, easy to use, experience. In so many ways it's not.
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  9. #29


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    If you we're using a browser then a cookie could be set, it's part of web standards. BUT The App Store is not browser based and you are required to log in and authenticate in a proprietary system on MS servers. If you want to sell your soul to MS you can use an MS account instead of a local account on your PC otherwise you must log in each time you use an MS online service.
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  10. #30


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    If you we're using a browser then a cookie could be set, it's part of web standards. BUT The App Store is not browser based and you are required to log in and authenticate in a proprietary system on MS servers. If you want to sell your soul to MS you can use an MS account instead of a local account on your PC otherwise you must log in each time you use an MS online service.
    I understand that fully, as I've said a number of times already. But my question is why do it this way? Windows 8 is supposed to streamline and make things easier and quicker, and considering that the app stores is displayed like any other app, surely Microsoft could have implemented something akin to cookies in web browsers.

    Indeed, doesn't the app store actually open up as a web browser, only it doesn't look like web browser, or why could it not open up in a web browser? Everyone is telling me why it doesn't, or saying why it can't, or saying that's just the way it is. I'm suggesting something different. You know, moving away from doing things the 'old' way.
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