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Help creating multiple backups on same hardrive.

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    Help creating multiple backups on same hardrive.


    I recently purchased a 4TB external hardrive for the purpose of backuping my computer in case of a ransom ware attack. I purchased a 4TB with the thought of having about 4 different backups a couple moths apart and deleting the oldest when creating more than a 4th one.

    I went to do a backup and it said it would takeup the entire 4TB, even though the restore file size would be nowhere near that size. How can I create multiple different backups?

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    I recommend Macrium Reflect and/or Acronis True Image to make full images of both your OS and data partitions.
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    +1 for Macrium Reflect. You don't have to partition the drive, just make a full hard drive "image" (backup) to the 4TB drive.

    However, if you don't and an UEFI BIOS and format the drive with "GPT" you won't be able to format and use the entire 4GB as one drive, you will have to partition it.

    I just bought a 3GB drive for backups. I have a UEFI BIOS and was able to format and use the entire 3GB.
    Last edited by fireberd; 20 Apr 2016 at 11:39.
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    Just FTR - you are more likely to need a backup due to disk or other hardware failure, or loss, than due to ransomware. Ransomware depends on socially engineered methods of distribution. That is, it requires the user to be "click-happy" on an unsolicited links, downloads, or attachment. So, if you keep Windows and your security solution fully updated and you are not "click-happy", the chances of getting hit by ransomware are very slim. That does not mean you don't have to pay attention or be concerned about ransomware or other malware - you do because the badguys are pretty clever at making those links, downloads and attachments look legitimate. The key is, are they unsolicited (received totally out of the blue) or not? And if unsure, just visit the site by manually entering the normal address you would use into your address bar if you were to initiate the contact.
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    Id like to consider myself pretty computer literate and know of all the fake pop-ups and "updates" that try to make you download something. I also have the paid version of Malware-bytes. Still though, id to have backups just in case.

    Ok, so from what is said above, I need to reformat my external hardrive into GPF in order to create the multiple images of my computer as a whole? What do you mean by "use the entire hardrive". I want to be able to have multiple saves on it, using all space as needed, maybe even backup my laptop to it.

    Can I do that using the Macrium Reflect to have the multiple images, or do I need to make 4-5 partitions, then do the backup image?
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    Austin TX metro area
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    The hard-drive does not need to have more than one partition, I think that is what was meant by using the whole drive.
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    Id like to consider myself pretty computer literate and know of all the fake pop-ups and "updates" that try to make you download something. I also have the paid version of Malware-bytes. Still though, id to have backups just in case.
    Great! Then I'd be more concerned about hardware failure and not ransomware (though even experienced users have to stay disciplined and not let our guards down). And to that, it is important to have multiple layers of backups to include backups in multiple locations.

    What happens if a badguy breaks into your home and steals your computer and this external drive? What if a fire, flood, or Tornado takes out your home? Something to chew on.

    You don't need multiple partitions. The backup software can manage all that. In fact, I would not recommend multiple partitions. The more complex the partition tables, the greater the risk something may go wrong with them.

    Oh, and MBAM Premium is the only security program I recommend folks purchase. I use it along with Windows Defender and Windows Firewall on all my systems with no problems.
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    In reference to the GPT formatting. You only have to use GPT on the 4GB drive. You don't have to use that on your system drive.
    Last edited by fireberd; 20 Apr 2016 at 11:39.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireberd View Post
    +1 for Macrium Reflect. You don't have to partition the drive, just make a full hard drive "image" (backup) to the 4TB drive.

    However, if you don't and an UEFI BIOS and format the drive with "GPF" you won't be able to format and use the entire 4GB as one drive, you will have to partition it.

    I just bought a 3GB drive for backups. I have a UEFI BIOS and was able to format and use the entire 3GB.
    What is GPF formatting, i haven't heard of that before ?

    I have a Legacy BIOS PC (no UEFI) and a 3TB backup HD.
    I initialized it as GPT and formatted it as NTFS.
    I use the HD as a single partition.
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    Oops. It is GPT. My bad
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