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Question about system image backup

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    Question about system image backup


    When I bought my (Windows 8.1 PC) it had a very unusual internet problem - was very slow and took ages to fix. Anyway now it works fine as long as the power setting (in Power4Gear Hybrid) is set to max performance. I can't remember what I did to fix the problem...

    Anyway I want to update to Windows 10 but am worried that this will cause the problem to reoccur. If I did a system image backup, will this save my settings EXACTLY as they are and enable me to go back to Windows 8.1 as it is now if Windows 10 does cause the problem to reoccur?

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    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,290
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmerlin View Post
    When I bought my (Windows 8.1 PC) it had a very unusual internet problem - was very slow and took ages to fix. Anyway now it works fine as long as the power setting (in Power4Gear Hybrid) is set to max performance. I can't remember what I did to fix the problem...

    Anyway I want to update to Windows 10 but am worried that this will cause the problem to reoccur. If I did a system image backup, will this save my settings EXACTLY as they are and enable me to go back to Windows 8.1 as it is now if Windows 10 does cause the problem to reoccur?
    Yup. It's a image of how your PC is at the moment of pulling the trigger, programs, settings ,partitioning... everything. A lot of us in the forums use Macrium Reflect to do this. For informational & site links, see this post/thread.
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    Hear, Hear


    Yes, do the Macrium, and do a system disk image. Much faster than any other way to get back what you lose. Everyone should be doing the Macrium. I do incrementals daily and hardly notice.

    Sign me: tired of restoring Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmerlin View Post
    When I bought my (Windows 8.1 PC) it had a very unusual internet problem - was very slow and took ages to fix. Anyway now it works fine as long as the power setting (in Power4Gear Hybrid) is set to max performance. I can't remember what I did to fix the problem...

    Anyway I want to update to Windows 10 but am worried that this will cause the problem to reoccur. If I did a system image backup, will this save my settings EXACTLY as they are and enable me to go back to Windows 8.1 as it is now if Windows 10 does cause the problem to reoccur?
    Yup. It's a image of how your PC is at the moment of pulling the trigger, programs, settings ,partitioning... everything. A lot of us in the forums use Macrium Reflect to do this. For informational & site links, see this post/thread.
    Thanks for the reply, if you don't mind me asking, what are the benefits to using Macrium Reflect to do this instead of the standard Windows tool?
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    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,290
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    It's much easier to use and you can set a schedule to do it as often as you wish. With the recovery drive you can do an image on any windows PC, and now you can add a Boot Menu option so you can bot to the recovery environment after having a BSOD or Black screen.
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    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Macrium works good.
    The free version now supports the boot time recovery environment.

    When you get a BSOD or black screen you will appreciate this option.
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    UK
    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit


    I recently transferred a system to a new SSD using Macrium Reflect Free for the first time and can confirm it is an excellent utility.
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    Posts : 100
    Windows 8.1, 10, various Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    ...A lot of us in the forums use Macrium Reflect to do this. For informational & site links, see this post/thread.
    I'll look into that, too.

    Right now, however, I use Clonezilla to image copy my two hard drives to other identical hard drives I store "elsewhere". First power down the PC completely, insert backup drive into Thermaltake external SATA dock, power that up, then power up the PC with the Clonezilla CD/DVD in; a USB memory module would boot as well. When Clonezilla comes up it's a simple matter to image copy the entire source hard drive to the external hard drive. When done the external hard drive is identical to the internal hard drive. Power down, rinse and repeat for the other internal hard drive.

    Why do it this way? (1) the images are exact thus the backup drives can simply be substituted for the internal drives in case of drive failure (just did that with one of my relatively ancient drives), (2) the copies can be stored anywhere NOT colocated with the source drives, thus are somewhat "safer" as backups, and (3) the copies are stored on nonpowered inactive hard drives so there is NO wear-n-tear on them; even if the source drive fails the copy of it will be on a robust little-used hard drive.

    During this Windows 10 fiasco, I made good use of a late July image of C: to restore my internal C: drive repeatedly (using Clonezilla in "the other direction" to restore)...then finally to actually physically replace the internal C: drive.

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    The failed drive was built in August 2011 and probably bought shortly after that so lasted about 3.75 years. The drive was typically powered up in the morning and shut down at night, maybe 16 hours per day typical, 365 days a year. 16x365x3.75 or 20,000+ hours of use before it started to generate strange messages in Windows' event logs .

    Post-post addendum - it's remarkably hard to find totally-meaningful statistics on hard drive lifetimes. If you Google for such a thing you'll get about 4,000,000 hits that ALL reference some stats produced by Backblaze (offline backup company). But those stats are for drives that undoubtedly are little "used" in that they're powered up but mostly inactive - not at ALL like your typical main hard drive on your computer that is being pounded and randomly read/write accessed from the time it's powered up to the time it's powered down.
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    Posts : 21
    Windows 7 Ultimate / Windows 8.1


    Just wanna share here. When I started to use Windows 8.1 the backup image program I used were Acronis True Image 2012 and Macrium Free. Fired it up from a Yumi created usb multiboot so I did not have to install either one of them on the Windows 8.1 partition. I always have relied on both software's (ATI most often as the size of the image backup compared to Macrium is much smaller (for 36gb partition ATI backup was only 19gb compared to Macrium's 21.6gb backup/restore was also much faster in ATI but that's just me).
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    UK
    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit


    The Acronis software I used installed low level drivers which were not removed when the Acronis software was uninstalled. They were a real pain to remove - see Safe Removal of Acronis True Image Drivers
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