High RAM usage in windows 8.1. Can't find source.

SubZeroS3

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This suddenly happened one day, my memory usage is currently over 65% with nothing open, I have 8gb of DDR3 Ram.
Here's a picture of the task manager. 4adffb360e.png

And here are a couple pictures from RAMMAP 5116739e50.png bbc708f8ab.png

There are 5GB of RAM being used by something and I can't tell what it is.
Would really appreciate some help here.

Edit: I've ran a scan with Malwarebytes aswell as another scan with Clamwin. So I doubt it's a virus.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 pro 64x
Post a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab showing memory info.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
I blame Chrome sir.

Can you get a second opinion?

  1. Download and install Process Hacker.
  2. DO NOT select the option that would cause it replace the windows task manager.
  3. DO select the option to allow it to install as a service.
  4. Open Process Hacker and under the [Processes] tab, sort by Private Bytes.

Post that pic and let us take a look.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual boot: Win 8.1 Pro x64; Win 7 HP x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv7
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 3610QM @ 2.30GHz
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 181C
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17 inch Generic; HP 27 inch Monitor
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 750 GB
    WD Elements 500 GB
    Antivirus
    Win 8.1 Defender
Also, I wish my system would do this.

I have 2.5 GB or RAM being used with the rest being idle. I can't even copy files the way I want to. Files always slow down and still the idle RAM just sits idly by.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual boot: Win 8.1 Pro x64; Win 7 HP x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv7
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 3610QM @ 2.30GHz
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 181C
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17 inch Generic; HP 27 inch Monitor
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 750 GB
    WD Elements 500 GB
    Antivirus
    Win 8.1 Defender
Also, I wish my system would do this.

I have 2.5 GB or RAM being used with the rest being idle. I can't even copy files the way I want to. Files always slow down and still the idle RAM just sits idly by.

Are you sure the memory is idle?
The memory graph can be misleading in that it does not show full memory usage. All memory that is not labeled as "Free" is actually in use. In most situations the amount of free memory is quite low and a graph that showed full usage would be neither useful or interesting. In any event throwing more memory at a file copy is unlikely to be of much benefit.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Are you sure the memory is idle?
The memory graph can be misleading in that it does not show full memory usage. All memory that is not labeled as "Free" is actually in use. In most situations the amount of free memory is quite low and a graph that showed full usage would be neither useful or interesting. In any event throwing more memory at a file copy is unlikely to be of much benefit.

You are correct. I apparently have less than 200 MB of memory that's actually free, per Resource Monitor.

How can I get my system to actually copy files quickly then? Is it the write speed that is slow?

I don't understand. It starts out at 60 MB/s and then slows to 10 MB/s. Why is that?
Apologies for hijacking this thread.

I actually have this question posed in a thread here:
http://www.eightforums.com/performa...i-minimize-amount-page-faults-programs-2.html
and would welcome your comments on the issue there.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual boot: Win 8.1 Pro x64; Win 7 HP x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv7
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 3610QM @ 2.30GHz
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 181C
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17 inch Generic; HP 27 inch Monitor
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi 750 GB
    WD Elements 500 GB
    Antivirus
    Win 8.1 Defender
It claims it's 800mhz for some reason, it's actually 1600mhz
Pardon me if I missed the mention of it but is the computer a Desktop or a Notebook/Laptop? If it's a Notebook, most have something like a speedstep that throttles the CPU speed in the interest of battery charge duration. I tend to use Power Options to make it more like a Desktop or Always on then reboot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WinXP, WinVista, Win7, Win8.1, Win10, Linux Mint 20
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2 Customs and 12 OEM/Brands
    CPU
    AMD and Intel
It claims it's 800mhz for some reason, it's actually 1600mhz
Pardon me if I missed the mention of it but is the computer a Desktop or a Notebook/Laptop? If it's a Notebook, most have something like a speedstep that throttles the CPU speed in the interest of battery charge duration. I tend to use Power Options to make it more like a Desktop or Always on then reboot.

It's a desktop.
my specs if you are interested
CPU: AMD FX 8350
GPU: GTX 660
MB: Gigabyte 970a-D3P
RAM: 4x2GB Gskill Ripjaws @1600mhz

This problem just happened one day for apparently no reason. the RAM usuage is low when I start the PC up but it seems to increase after time I believe.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 pro 64x
I blame Chrome sir.

Can you get a second opinion?

  1. Download and install Process Hacker.
  2. DO NOT select the option that would cause it replace the windows task manager.
  3. DO select the option to allow it to install as a service.
  4. Open Process Hacker and under the [Processes] tab, sort by Private Bytes.

Post that pic and let us take a look.

It still doesn't add up.
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none of the programs I used show what's using all that RAM.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 pro 64x
Adding up process memory usage will never equal total usage. It was never intended that it would. "Private Bytes" is not full memory usage of a process and there are significant users of memory that are not processes. Process Hacker will not account for all of them.

You would need to add the "Working set" column to see full usage of a process. But we can't assume that the problem is a process.

Under the View menu select "System information". Click on "Memory" in the left column and post the window contents. That may reveal something.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
High ram usage is not a problem is your using a HDD and prefetch is putting pieces of software you use most often in memory to speed things up. Unused RAM Is Wasted RAM. As long as your PC is running well and no freezes, crashes, or constant high CPU usage(unless you've set your power options to High Performance), there is no problem and with 8 gig RAM yours looks normal to me.

HTG Explains: Why It’s Good That Your Computer’s RAM Is Full
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
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