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Dell Backup & Recovery Keeps Creating Partitions

  1. #11

    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit

    In reply to post 7 - I tried the reagentc /enable command but it reports "The Windows RE image was not found"

    Should I have a Windows RE Image?

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  2. #12

    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64

    I would say the Microsoft process did mess up your Recovery options.

    We are still in discussion mode here, so don't yet take any action based on observations presented.

    The original partitions were all of the first ones including the OS partition and one of the 8 GB Recovery Image partitions. It may be hard to determine which Recovery Image was the original. You can try running the Diskpart list volume command and see if one shows with a PBR Image designation.

    The fact the second 8 GB partition shows with an OEM description means it will not work with your Recovery options. If it was to be the correct partition, you would need to change the Type ID de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac and an Attrib of 0x8000000000000001.

    My partition readout.
    DISKPART> lis par
    Partition ### Type Size Offset
    ------------- ---------------- ------- -------
    Partition 1 System 500 MB 1024 KB
    Partition 2 OEM 40 MB 501 MB
    Partition 3 Reserved 128 MB 541 MB
    Partition 4 Recovery 750 MB 669 MB
    Partition 5 Primary 221 GB 1419 MB
    Partition 6 Recovery 9 GB 223 GB
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  3. #13

    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit

    Thanks. No volume has the PBR designation.
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  4. #14

    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64

    Well, another thing you might try is run a Mountvol command in the Admin Command prompt. Several of the entries in the result will show as ***No Mount Points ***. Pick the last one and copy the Volume ID and paste it into a Run Box to open that folder. The attachment shows the folder structure in my Recovery Partiton.

    Click image for larger version
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  5. #15

    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit

    Thanks for the last tip. I get the nag box "Location is not available" for the last volume stating the location is not available / The device is not ready. In fact, all of the mount points result in the same error.

    Regarding the reagentc /enable command which didn't work, I found I have no winre.wim file in my System32 directory. Should I have? I found this article to install it if necessary:
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  6. #16

    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64

    If the partition is designated as OEM, nothing may work. You would need to reset the Type ID.

    The WinRE file is in the first Recovery Partition.

    What I am thinking is you reset the last Recovery Image partition so it no longer shows as OEM. Then use the reagentc commands to set the recovery options as shown on my system. You can set those setting by using the Volume IDs as long as you know you are using the correct partition.

    So, for now, use Diskpart and pick the correct drive and then the correct partition. Use the Set id command to set it to the correct designation for a recovery partition. The other 8 GB partition may be the same as the OEM one and you should be able to check the folder structure in it. You may want to copy the current Type id to a notepad to save if for some reason you need it agin.

    set id=de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac

    You can copy and paste this info into a command prompt window.
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  7. #17

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    Volume 0 C OS NTFS Partition 911 GB Healthy Boot
    Volume 1 P ESP FAT32 Partition 500 MB Healthy System
    Volume 2 Q RAW Partition 750 MB Healthy Hidden
    Volume 3 R RAW Partition 900 MB Healthy Hidden
    Volume 4 S RAW Partition 900 MB Healthy Hidden
    Volume 5 T RAW Partition 450 MB Healthy Hidden
    Volume 6 U RAW Partition 8 GB Healthy Hidden

    Every one of the "RAW" partitions are now worthless - the data has been wiped and you have no factory Recovery or Recovery Tools

    Unless you happen to find a windowsRE folder on P - and hidden inside that folder is winre.wim

    Attachment 59238

    C and P have to stay - all the others are just blank un-formatted partitions.. And can now be safely removed...
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  8. #18

    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit

    Many thanks for the above advice. Some of the volumes labelled as RAW by DISKPART are formatted and contain data when you view them in Paragon Backup.

    My understanding based on the above advice and further information from Paragon Backup which shows more information partition by partition in the sequence reports by Paragon is shown below:

    Partition 1 Vol P - 500MB ESP, FAT 32 formatted - Need to keep. It contains an EFI directory but no winre.wim
    Partition 2 - 40 MB OEM/DIAGS, FAT 32 formatted. Only 512 bytes used. Should I keep this?
    Partition 3 - 128MB, System Reserved. Should I keep this?
    Partition 4 Vol Q - 750MB, WINRETOOLs, NTFS, 440.8MB used. Should I keep this since it contains data?
    Partition 5 Vol C - Win 8.1, NTFS. Obviously keep!
    Unallocated space 50MB - eligible to be used by the OS partition C:
    Partition 6 Vol R / DISKPART Partition 10 -900GB unformatted. This can be removed.
    Partition 7 Vol S / DISKPART Partition 9 -900GB unformatted. This can be removed.
    Partition 8 Vol T / DISKPART Partition 6 - OEM Service Volume 450MB NTFS, 314.5MB used. Should I keep this since it has data or can it be deleted?
    Partition 9 Vol U / DISKPART Partition 8? - PBR Image, 8.2GB NTFS, 7.4GB used. Should I keep this since it has data or can it be deleted?
    Partition 10 / DISKPART Partition 7? - 8GB not formatted. This can be removed.

    Please advise:

    1. Whether you agree with the above?
    2. It's unclear whether Partitions 8, 9 above can be removed. If I can't remove them, it would seem difficult to expand the OS partition to use up the free space.
    3. I have no winre.wim file on Partition 1. Should I have this file, and if so, how do I repair the partition to include it?
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  9. #19

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    you should find windows 8.1 winre is on Q
    you should find windows 8.1 winre is on T

    and your factory recovery image is on U

    right now it looks like you keep 1,2,3,4,5,and if you want factory recovery 9
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  10. #20

    Posts : 275
    Windows 8.1 64 bit


    I tried viewing Q & T using the DIR command in a command prompt window but just get the error "The device is not ready". Is there a way of searching the volume/partition for winre?

    Do I need both volumes Q & T? Can I delete T? If so, can I also safely delete Partition 10 then move Partition 9 to the end of the disk? This would enable me to merge all the free space with the OS partition.
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