Moving folders broke Metro, can this be fixed?

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I just got an SSD and did extensive research (I've done almost nothing else today and yesterday) on how to have the SSD as a boot drive for Windows and use my HDD as storage for files that don't require fast read and write times like documents and programs (not games). I ended up doing what the guy in this video does, with a few deviations to make the process work for Windows 8, which I will list out below:
Delete all partitions
Install Windows on SSD
Reboot into Audit mode (ctrl+shift+f3 at setup)
Open Admin level command line
Create 2 NTFS partitions for Users and Program Files on HDD
robocopy Program Files, Program Files (x86), Users, ProgramData (with correct options and paths)
mklink /j Program Files, Program Files (x86), Users (again with correct paths)
regedit (changed values exactly as he does in the video at about 13:50)
reboot into setup, finish setup, now I'm here.

Everything works great, except everything having to do with Metro (start screen) is broken. I can go to the Start screen, where all tiles now have an x in the bottom right corner, but all metro apps crash. Running the Apps Diagnostic provided by Microsoft finds that:
1. The Windows Store cache might be damaged
2. The Windows Store configuration might be damaged
3. Display Adapter drivers might be out of date.
I tried this once earlier and was able to get the store and settings working again, which is enough for me. I never use any apps besides settings, and then only when the settings aren't available in the desktop control panel. However, this time I can't get the store and settings working again. I think the problem is that I moved ProgramData, which I didn't do last time. Would moving ProgramData back and changing the related registry values fix the problem?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
robocopy Program Files, Program Files (x86), Users, ProgramData (with correct options and paths)

there is your problem...

the proper way to move those folders is to right click on them, select properties and then location (change to your data drive)..
This tells the system where they are and the apps where to find them..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
Alright, moving ProgramData back and changing the registry value back fixed the problem, I can now use the store and settings, as well as some apps. However, I think it's possible to fix all of the apps and would like to know if anyone has a suggestion.
I uninstalled mail, calendars, and people (you have to uninstall all 3 at once), then tried to reinstall it. That gives me error 0xd00000bb. Can anyone tell me what this error is?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
the proper way to move those folders is to right click on them, select properties and then location (change to your data drive)..
This tells the system where they are and the apps where to find them..

That doesn't always work, there are many folders where it is impossible to change the location simply by clicking on properties. Robocopy on a recovery partition is guaranteed to move every file because nothing is being used by the system.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
"Robocopy on a recovery partition is guaranteed to move every file because nothing is being used by the system."

seen no mention of a recovery partition in your post, sorry.. but you undid something you did and got some function back..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
Depending on the size of the SSD you can write windows in a compressed state and only need about 8GB of space
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
That was my mistake, I should have mentioned I did some of the copying from the recovery command line. Anyway, I'm getting that error with the Windows App Store and don't see any solution online, other than that the problem is either with my computer being unable to access the internet through the Metro UI (not the case) or system files are corrupted (more likely, although they aren't actually corrupted). Hopefully someone has a solution, but otherwise I can live without those few apps if it means I get to use my computer in this configuration.
I would think Microsoft would make doing this a little easier and much less buggy; they say they don't support the configuration but it really wouldn't be hard to. Most if not all Linux distributions are fine with having user files on a separate partition and many even recommend such a configuration, and none of them have issues letting users apply upgrades with that configuration.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Microsoft does not do what you are trying to do - so why would they consider supporting it.. They do it in a different way and it seems to work as intended.. They use 16GB drives and a 64GB SD card
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
What are you talking about? Phones? Computers don't usually use SD cards, and the majority of Microsoft's customers are on PCs. PCs can have any number of hardware combinations. Microsoft's "one OS, one partition" system doesn't work as intended when users want to have a combination of hard drives for one OS, so that's why they should consider supporting it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Modern Apps will not work if their files, shortcuts, etc. are removed from the system directory because they all run in separate app containers through Application Frame Hosts and Brokers from within 'System32'.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion
  • PC2
    Tablet - Windows 10 Home
ok, now that you are the one asking questions about your system that is not working properly.. So first you need to remember that before you start giving us slack..

Install widows to your ssd drive - relocate your personal folder to your hard drive by right clicking and re-locating them..

When you go to install your other programs - you tell them to install to the data hard driv and not your windows drive..

It is that simply and you where the one spending Two days watching utube video's - and still could not figure it out.. Not to mention the time you spent before this, when you first tried it and it didn't work either..

Now your personal file folders and your programs will be on your data drive and windows will be on your SSD

Enjoy!! and Your Welcome
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
As far as your Phone - pull the sim card and you'll see just how many of those apps fail because they are not connected to a server..

So now your SSD becomes your phone and your hard drive becomes that data server - using your referenced of course..

Your posts only show how much you need to LEARN before you come off correcting somebody..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
KYHI, I have no idea what I've done to piddle you off so much, but you need to chill. I'm not "giving you slack." I'm confused about you talking about an SD card in a PC. Copying a user's folder to a hard drive within Windows doesn't work completely because some files are being used by the system, the same goes for Program Files and Program Files (x86). The point of setting my system up like this was specifically to avoid having to install programs to the hard drive manually; now that I have successfully put the program files and my user folder on a partition of the hard drive, I don't have to do that every time. Any programs I want to put on the SSD (like games) can be installed in a folder on the SSD manually, and there are far fewer of those than there are of regular programs and documents. I'm not sure why you feel the need to criticize me doing research before changing the structure of my system.
I never said anything about having a phone, but yes I know some apps on a phone will crash if they don't have an internet connection. This is not a problem with Windows Apps not having an internet connection, they just can't find certain system files for some reason. I didn't mean to be offensive when I corrected you about whether or not you could change any given folder's location simply by clicking on properties, but you certainly seem to have taken it that way.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The point of setting my system up like this was specifically to avoid having to install programs to the hard drive manually; you mean copy your program(s) setup files to the data hard drive?

now that I have unsuccessfully put the program files and my user folder on a partition of the hard drive, I don't have to do that every time. "ProgramData, Program Files and Program Files (x86)" are windows directory(s) and need to stay on the system root and can not be moved

Any programs I want to install on the SSD (like games) can be installed to a folder on the SSD from the hard drive manually, and there are far fewer of those than there are of regular programs and documents.

You now have two drives - SSD which is the drive for windows and a HDD which is your Data Hard drive for your personal folders, and your Game(s) Program(s) setup files and folders (Storage Drive)

Setup a fresh copy of windows on the SSD - this will correct the issue(s) you are having with windows and your apps.

Once you finish setup and create a user profile, Right click your user folders ( docs, pics, vids, etc) and relocate them to a New folder you created on the HDD data drive.. Now all your personal files you save or create will be relocated to and saved on the HDD and your apps will find them..

Copy all your game CD's into folders you create on the HDD - then you can install your game from there.
Weather you choose to install to the SSD or HDD does not matter

IF your SSD ever goes poop - all your important files and game programs will still be on the HDD

Hope this helps

I run a (32GB SSD and a 1TB HDD) on my PC
I run a (16GB eMMC and a 64GB SDcard) on my tablet
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB
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