a ? about let windows turn off usb hubs?

TonyB

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My computer keyboard manufacture recommends to turn the feature off in device manager let windows power off usb devices is this wise? i have never touched that setting nor have had a issue with it, they also recommend going into the bios and doing this stuff is it wise to mess with this stuff i don't now should i its a steelseries gaming keyboard and mouse. What should i do should i do it or leave it like it is i don't seem to have issues not sure why they say to do this.
a) S3 stand by type is allowed if you have standby enabled
b) USB speed is at Full Speed (12 MBPS)
c) USB devices are allowed to wake the computer from standby
d) Legacy USB support is enabled
e) Toggle 'Wake on Lan' (if it's on, turn off - if it's off, turn on
 

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Non of those actually turn off USB, they are settings to let USB wake the computer and set the USB speed. I wouldn't allow USB to be turned off/sleep especially on desktop PC. You can set that option in advanced power settings.

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hi popeye sorry it took me so long to reply back i was at work, anyhow will turning this off effect my USB backup drive that i always have connected to my machine ??
 

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hi popeye sorry it took me so long to reply back i was at work, anyhow will turning this off effect my USB backup drive that i always have connected to my machine ??

No problem, we all have lives outside this place believe it or not. :)

Turning what off? If you mean enabling "USB selective suspend setting", yes it might. Do you have timed backups set? All you can do is try it and see.

EDIT: I would think whatever program you are using to backup would wake the drive though.
 

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yes it is currently of that selective suspend it says enable if i turn that to not enabled i wonder if it was mess up my backups?. also the lady just sent me the corrected instructions, this is wired but here they are and they do say to turn that off as well. also i'm on win 8.1 but she says it same.

We have a set of steps that we recommend for every user that uses SteelSeries USB products on a Windows Vista or Windows 7 computer.

1) Navigate to control panel -> power options (make sure the Control Panel window is set to large icon view in the top right of the window) High Performance should always be used when testing USB devices, but there is an additional setting that needs to be configured

2) Click on ‘change plan settings’ on the right side, next to High Performance

3) Under the ‘Put the Computer to Sleep’ dropdown box, select Never

4) Click on ‘Change advanced power settings’ – it will bring up the menu below. From there, expand the USB Settings section, expand the USB selective suspend setting, and select DISABLED. Hit apply and OK.

5)
a. Open op the device manager.
b. Uncollapse “Universal Serial Bus controllers” (USB Controller)
c. Select one of the USB Root Hubs, right-click on it and click on “Properties”.
d. Go to the tab “Power Management“ Uncheck the option “Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power and follow on all usb root hubs"
 

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Disabled is actually the safer option as it means your USB ports will not be suspended or go into sleep mode. The lady you are talking about sent you the correct settings if you want to be sure your drive is always on-line.
 

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ok wow maybe that is why it takes my usb backup drive long time to power up so i have just one question she says to do this on root hubs, i see those but i also have something called generic usb hub should i also do it on those and on the usb root hub (xHCl) which i guess is usb 3.
 

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    MSI Z77A-G45
    Memory
    8 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti
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    Samsung Sync Master s27B550
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    1080p
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    1 TB internal driver and one 1TB external drive.
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Yes, if the option is there to power off the hub, uncheck it.
 

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    Memory
    8GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
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    HD4000 + GeForce GT 730M
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    17" Generic PnP Display on Intel HD Graphics 4000
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ok cool i will go and do this on all of them :) thanks a bunch.
 

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    MSI Z77A-G45
    Memory
    8 gigs
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    PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Sync Master s27B550
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
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    1 TB internal driver and one 1TB external drive.
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Glad to help!
 

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    Memory
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    HD4000 + GeForce GT 730M
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    17" Generic PnP Display on Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900 pixels
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    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250 GB
    ADATA SSD SP900 128GB
    PSU
    90 watt brick
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Antivirus
    Comodo
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    Asus RT-AC56R dual-band WRT router (Merlin firmware). Intel 7260.HMWWB.R dual-band ac wireless adapter.
Wow my old backup drive is allot more snappy now turning those off and that selective suspend off made a world of difference i also notice my steelseries keyboard lights are working way better to maybe that is why they suggest to turn that stuff off for there keyboards.
 

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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI Z77A-G45
    Memory
    8 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Sync Master s27B550
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1 TB internal driver and one 1TB external drive.
    PSU
    Antec NeoECO 620 watt
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    custom case
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    Fans
    Keyboard
    steelseries apex
    Mouse
    stellseris sensel
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    Norton 360 from comcast
after doing this i was playing a game and my computer locked up never happened before could it be because i changed these settings? also got a wired error in even viewer something pertaining to this The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device SWD\WPDBUSENUM\{96b031f6-4cbf-11e2-be66-848f69f5493c}#0000000000007E00. did my messing with thoes setting cause this, i had to hard shut down as the game froze my whole screen, my temps were all good so was not that.
 

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    PC/Desktop
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    Myself
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI Z77A-G45
    Memory
    8 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Sync Master s27B550
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1 TB internal driver and one 1TB external drive.
    PSU
    Antec NeoECO 620 watt
    Case
    custom case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    steelseries apex
    Mouse
    stellseris sensel
    Internet Speed
    Unknowen
    Browser
    Google chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 from comcast
Just ran alienware autopsy powered by pc doctor full gaming stress test and memory test and motherboard test all pass with flying colors Maybe the game did this???
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Myself
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI Z77A-G45
    Memory
    8 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Sync Master s27B550
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1 TB internal driver and one 1TB external drive.
    PSU
    Antec NeoECO 620 watt
    Case
    custom case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    steelseries apex
    Mouse
    stellseris sensel
    Internet Speed
    Unknowen
    Browser
    Google chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 from comcast
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