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    New installed SSD


    I recently installed a New SSD Crucial MX100 CT512MX100SSD1 2.5" 512GB SATA III.

    I have Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit which when i installed it i did a clean custom install of the OS.

    Wanted to know if there is anything i need to do to make sure this SSD is running optimally on my system.
    I have it set to AHCI mode, newest controller drivers installed.

    Known never to Defrag a SSD, but mixed reviews on Windows 8.1 Optimize, that it would not defrag if it was set to run, it optimizes them (read – runs trim command). Some seem not too sure about this in research.

    Not really looking to Tweak Windows 8.1 to squeeze more performance out of it or my system. Just wanted to know if there was anything i needed to do or does Windows 8.1 do it for me, read something about Winsat also.

    Disabled Hibernate because i do not use it, along with sleep function, Power setting is on high performance.

    Have Intel i5 w/ 16GB RAM. This is the only Drive except for an external HDD.

    Read a lot about changing pagefile, advanced write caching, disabling system restore.

    Relocating libraries, like Documents,music,videos and downloads because of write and re write

    Causes shorter life of the SSD. Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to.

    I use System Restore points to save from any mistakes made or problems from updates or programs installed, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    I recently installed a New SSD Crucial MX100 CT512MX100SSD1 2.5" 512GB SATA III.
    I'm not familiar with Crucial, but Samsung and Intel have programs that will help optimize your SSD?
    I have Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit which when i installed it i did a clean custom install of the OS.

    Wanted to know if there is anything i need to do to make sure this SSD is running optimally on my system.
    I have it set to AHCI mode, newest controller drivers installed.
    Yes and install UEFI GPT, latest Chipset drivers, IRST Driver, IME driver this will insure your getting maximum performance,
    Known never to Defrag a SSD, but mixed reviews on Windows 8.1 Optimize, that it would not defrag if it was set to run, it optimizes them (read – runs trim command). Some seem not too sure about this in research.
    Win 8.1 i'm pretty sure will only run the Trim Command on the schedule you set up? Insure your SSD is recognized as an SSD and not a hard Drive! Trim has been supported Natively in Windows since Win7 SP1
    Not really looking to Tweak Windows 8.1 to squeeze more performance out of it or my system. Just wanted to know if there was anything i needed to do or does Windows 8.1 do it for me, read something about Winsat also.

    Disabled Hibernate because i do not use it, along with sleep function, Power setting is on high performance.
    Yes and delete the Hiberfil.sys file to save space. The only disadvantage if its a notebook and your AC gets disconnected and your battery dies files won't get saved. I've left mine there for that reason.
    Have Intel i5 w/ 16GB RAM. This is the only Drive except for an external HDD.

    Read a lot about changing pagefile, advanced write caching, disabling system restore.
    16 GB of Ram you won't really need a page file unless your running multiple VM
    Relocating libraries, like Documents,music,videos and downloads because of write and re write
    We usually move libraries etc to a 2nd storage hard drive you only have 1 drive so wouldn't apply to you.
    Causes shorter life of the SSD. Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to.
    with the 3 to 10 year warranty's I don't think you need to be concern about warring a SSD out.
    I use System Restore points to save from any mistakes made or problems from updates or programs installed, etc..
    I use them too I wouldn't worry to much about it. Also Disk/SSD Images are really handy.

    If you have space for a 2nd hard drive you could use your old hard drive as a Data Drive. Then move the libraries to it for storage.
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    Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to
    My impression, by the time some ssd eventually wears out one will be able to buy a new one for 1\8 of the worn one's original price, with 8x the capacity :O) So no worry here, see attachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    I recently installed a New SSD Crucial MX100 CT512MX100SSD1 2.5" 512GB SATA III.
    I'm not familiar with Crucial, but Samsung and Intel have programs that will help optimize your SSD?
    I have Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit which when i installed it i did a clean custom install of the OS.

    Wanted to know if there is anything i need to do to make sure this SSD is running optimally on my system.
    I have it set to AHCI mode, newest controller drivers installed.
    Yes and install UEFI GPT, latest Chipset drivers, IRST Driver, IME driver this will insure your getting maximum performance,
    Known never to Defrag a SSD, but mixed reviews on Windows 8.1 Optimize, that it would not defrag if it was set to run, it optimizes them (read – runs trim command). Some seem not too sure about this in research.
    Win 8.1 i'm pretty sure will only run the Trim Command on the schedule you set up? Insure your SSD is recognized as an SSD and not a hard Drive! Trim has been supported Natively in Windows since Win7 SP1
    Not really looking to Tweak Windows 8.1 to squeeze more performance out of it or my system. Just wanted to know if there was anything i needed to do or does Windows 8.1 do it for me, read something about Winsat also.

    Disabled Hibernate because i do not use it, along with sleep function, Power setting is on high performance.
    Yes and delete the Hiberfil.sys file to save space. The only disadvantage if its a notebook and your AC gets disconnected and your battery dies files won't get saved. I've left mine there for that reason.
    Have Intel i5 w/ 16GB RAM. This is the only Drive except for an external HDD.

    Read a lot about changing pagefile, advanced write caching, disabling system restore.
    16 GB of Ram you won't really need a page file unless your running multiple VM
    Relocating libraries, like Documents,music,videos and downloads because of write and re write
    We usually move libraries etc to a 2nd storage hard drive you only have 1 drive so wouldn't apply to you.
    Causes shorter life of the SSD. Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to.
    with the 3 to 10 year warranty's I don't think you need to be concern about warring a SSD out.
    I use System Restore points to save from any mistakes made or problems from updates or programs installed, etc..
    I use them too I wouldn't worry to much about it. Also Disk/SSD Images are really handy.

    If you have space for a 2nd hard drive you could use your old hard drive as a Data Drive. Then move the libraries to it for storage.
    Someone on another forum gave me this link to read, look at #12 on it.

    Samsung Magician Software: OS Optimization Feature Overview | Samsung SSD

    Talks about the Samsung tool, but gives a lot of info on my questions.

    UEFI GPT believe this is a certain way of partitioning a drive, not certain i want to do this or even can with my system.
    Have latest Intel Drivers, IRST and Intel Management Engine.

    Still up in the air about Windows 8.1 Optimize not defragging an SSD even though i know for sure it is recognized as one on the system. Had it turned on, then i turned it off, too many mixed reviews still. I think TRIM still works without it being on.
    Need to be sure find out more on it.

    Where do i find the Hiberfile.sys ? Knew what it is mainly used for.
    Read that link, see what you think more on pagefile.

    I do have a External HDD i can relocate my Documents, downloads, music, videos and pictures. Saw process on how to do it.
    Right click folder, properties, location.

    Yep, system restore helped me out at times, hate to be left without it, deal with refresh, reset or Complete System Recovery.
    Not much into images, macrum Reflect or Acronis True image.

    Thanks for the advice and replying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to
    My impression, by the time some ssd eventually wears out one will be able to buy a new one for 1\8 of the worn one's original price, with 8x the capacity :O) So no worry here, see attachment.
    Well you know, i did get this one for pretty good price considering the price per Gig nowadays.

    I may buy another one next month, just for games. NICE, does Crucial have this ?
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    Disabling Hibernate, eliminates the Hiberfile.sys also.
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  7. #7


    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    I recently installed a New SSD Crucial MX100 CT512MX100SSD1 2.5" 512GB SATA III.
    I'm not familiar with Crucial, but Samsung and Intel have programs that will help optimize your SSD?
    I have Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit which when i installed it i did a clean custom install of the OS.

    Wanted to know if there is anything i need to do to make sure this SSD is running optimally on my system.
    I have it set to AHCI mode, newest controller drivers installed.
    Yes and install UEFI GPT, latest Chipset drivers, IRST Driver, IME driver this will insure your getting maximum performance,
    Known never to Defrag a SSD, but mixed reviews on Windows 8.1 Optimize, that it would not defrag if it was set to run, it optimizes them (read – runs trim command). Some seem not too sure about this in research.
    Win 8.1 i'm pretty sure will only run the Trim Command on the schedule you set up? Insure your SSD is recognized as an SSD and not a hard Drive! Trim has been supported Natively in Windows since Win7 SP1
    Not really looking to Tweak Windows 8.1 to squeeze more performance out of it or my system. Just wanted to know if there was anything i needed to do or does Windows 8.1 do it for me, read something about Winsat also.

    Disabled Hibernate because i do not use it, along with sleep function, Power setting is on high performance.
    Yes and delete the Hiberfil.sys file to save space. The only disadvantage if its a notebook and your AC gets disconnected and your battery dies files won't get saved. I've left mine there for that reason.
    Have Intel i5 w/ 16GB RAM. This is the only Drive except for an external HDD.

    Read a lot about changing pagefile, advanced write caching, disabling system restore.
    16 GB of Ram you won't really need a page file unless your running multiple VM
    Relocating libraries, like Documents,music,videos and downloads because of write and re write
    We usually move libraries etc to a 2nd storage hard drive you only have 1 drive so wouldn't apply to you.
    Causes shorter life of the SSD. Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to.
    with the 3 to 10 year warranty's I don't think you need to be concern about warring a SSD out.
    I use System Restore points to save from any mistakes made or problems from updates or programs installed, etc..
    I use them too I wouldn't worry to much about it. Also Disk/SSD Images are really handy.

    If you have space for a 2nd hard drive you could use your old hard drive as a Data Drive. Then move the libraries to it for storage.
    Someone on another forum gave me this link to read, look at #12 on it.

    Samsung Magician Software: OS Optimization Feature Overview | Samsung SSD

    Talks about the Samsung tool, but gives a lot of info on my questions.

    Yes Samsung and Intel have these tools

    UEFI GPT believe this is a certain way of partitioning a drive, not certain i want to do this or even can with my system.

    yes I think the SSD run better on UEFI but I can't document that though

    Have latest Intel Drivers, IRST and Intel Management Engine.

    Still up in the air about Windows 8.1 Optimize not defragging an SSD even though i know for sure it is recognized as one on the system. Had it turned on, then i turned it off, too many mixed reviews still. I think TRIM still works without it being on.
    Need to be sure find out more on it.

    Well like I said Trim has been supported since Win 7 SP1, Yes these SSD do have firmware that do garbage collection when the computer is Idle. Supposedly we don't need to Over Provision for that. But a lot of us still set off 10 to 20% of raw disk for this operation.

    Where do i find the Hiberfile.sys ? Knew what it is mainly used for.
    It's on the root of your C:\ look at the files below the folders. You may have to change the folder setting to show hidden files to see it.

    Read that link, see what you think more on pagefile.
    I have mine set to let the system handle it. Many don't use any or have it set to a small minimum size, Theory being the system will want to use Page file it was great with old Spinning disk but SSD are just as fast as the RAM. I have space so I don't concern myself with it.

    I do have a External HDD i can relocate my Documents, downloads, music, videos and pictures. Saw process on how to do it.
    Right click folder, properties, location.

    Yes if its on eSATA or USB 3.0 otherwise USB 2.0 is pretty slow transfers both ways

    Yep, system restore helped me out at times, hate to be left without it, deal with refresh, reset or Complete System Recovery.
    Not much into images, macrum Reflect or Acronis True image.

    Thanks for the advice and replying.
    I actually use both I used Acronis for years, then UEFI GPT arrive with this notebook and Acronis claimed to be able to restore a booting working GPT disk. But not true even as late a 1st Quarter 2014. So I learned about Macrium Reflect. MR is great has great tech support, great support forum. and It just works. I plan since I'm invested in Acronis continue use it on my BIOS MBR systems and MR on my UEFI GPT systems. I will move to MR more for the support as the #2 Reason and function #1. Acronis only gives you support for 30 days after that you got to pay and they suck horrible tech support right up there with Asus Support!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    Not sure about doing these things and if it's really needed to
    My impression, by the time some ssd eventually wears out one will be able to buy a new one for 1\8 of the worn one's original price, with 8x the capacity :O) So no worry here, see attachment.
    Well you know, i did get this one for pretty good price considering the price per Gig nowadays.

    I may buy another one next month, just for games. NICE, does Crucial have this ?
    Hello, it's this one > SSDlife Free Free Download
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    Sounds like you're all set! Enjoy your new SSD!!
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    Yeah, i think i am set, just too many questionable optimizations for SSD on internet.

    Never knew be complicated to use a SSD ,just pop it in, ready to go.
    All i want to know is it is performing good on my system.

    My system is UEFI. My External HDD i use is USB 3.0. My pagefile which not familiar with fooling with is set to 2944MB almost 3GB.

    As said here about Windows 8.1 Optimize, when i run it manually it is trimming the SSD, plus the analyze button does not function.
    Some research showed there was a glitch in Windows 8 about it defragging it instead, maybe this was cleared up in Win8.1.

    From article i linked from Samsung site it suggested for maximum performance and this is the one i am mainly leaning towards,
    to leave virtual memory and indexing enabled for more speed. Some are saying turn off SuperPrefetch, leave write caching enabled.

    Still deciding what to do,may have to try certain things see how it works.

    Update Reading some research says this about SuperPrefetch:

    In Windows 7, Microsoft attempted to address this issue by automatically disabling Superfetch and Prefetch when a fast SSD was detected. In Windows 8, however, the operating system tries to analyze the performance characteristics of the system’s storage and intelligently enable or disable Superfetch/Prefetch as needed.

    While most users will be fine letting Windows decide how to use Superfetch and Prefetch on its own, there are situations in which Windows may make the wrong decision, and power users will want to manually disable or enable the services. This most often occurs with non-standard configurations such as fast RAID arrays of HDDs, or mixed use of both SSDs and HDDs.

    Under Windows 8 SSD’s and RAID’s are ignored by SuperFetch. SuperFetch, under Windows 8 / 8.1 and newer will only run against spinning disk even though the service is running apparently on all disks… it is not working on SSD’s.

    Seems SuperPrefetch on my system is still enabled.

    System Restore is another question to disable or keep enabled, can programs like Macrium Reflect be as good.

    Using Macrium Reflect™ you can backup whole partitions or individual files and folders into a single compressed mountable archive file. This can then be used to create an exact image of partitions on a hard disk for easy hard disk upgrade or system recovery.

    Not familiar with this program. I did a clean install of Windows 8.1 Pro on new SSD at time. Wonder how it effects performance in any way using an image to restore a system.
    Last edited by jds63; 07 Aug 2014 at 19:31.
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