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Anybody else have a good working computer ?

  1. #71


    India
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Just keep making backups and keep them at safe place. That just reminded me I'm due for a full backup today or tomorrow since it's all silky smooth now.
    Go for it

    At last, I have one more question , this incremental & full back up what's the diff, we could just do a full back up each month & that's all that needed -right, except for those business guys who need to do the backup of the datas every now and then
    One of more or less literary exact words i IT, Full, what you did now, Incremental, just changes made in between backups, Full is much better, you can delete obsolete ones.. Best to do full because if something got in, like malware or something got dysfunctional than backup will be like that too. If you do full, manual backups at the times when you are sure all is right, that's how your backup will be.
    When I was working, I used to make Incremental backups of the server during the day and full backup of data set to run automatically after hours, it was done on tapes so it took couple of hours. Kept all week of backups on first in, first out basis, 7 tapes each day's one re recorded over one from same day but a week ago. None of them left at the same place as server, friday's one I took home and saturday's one went home with boss, rest at a safe in another office. Never lost a bit of data like that.
    OK, thanks for clearing that too..

    Thinking about the patience, tolerance you've to put through all those backups & time for these, only one question left, Were your whole day utilised just for backing up , i know without it you've to start everything from scratch - just curious about the time for all these in between other things to be concentrated while on the job!

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  2. #72


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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    OK, so how could we select the image from where I have to restore by selecting the latest incremental backup image? - is it selecting only the last backed up incremental image,?
    You can pick any image from the incremental sequence to restore back to. The restore procedure will use the "base" full image as a starting point and then apply all the incrementals in turn up to the one you choose to restore to.
    OK, I think I got it now, so i can put all these images inside another main folder on my external hard drive, isn't it? ,& i can restore by going inside that folder in the ehdd right? --
    Assuming i have several other files & folders in the ehdd.
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  3. #73


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    For what its worth, a full backup with Acronis (on my main system) takes around 10 minutes at a guess. The incrementals that follow take around 2 minutes. My backup regime means I'm never more than 24 hours from the last run.


    Have confidence. Run your backup and then restore the disc from that image. (and if your worried... and I can understand that if you've never done this before... then why not make a full system image with W8's own backup utility which will image the full drive for you. Then you have two different images you can use if needed)
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  4. #74


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Yes, just keep all your incremental images in the same folder and you'll be fine.
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  5. #75


    India
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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    For what its worth, a full backup with Acronis (on my main system) takes around 10 minutes at a guess. The incrementals that follow take around 2 minutes. My backup regime means I'm never more than 24 hours from the last run.


    Have confidence. Run your backup and then restore the disc from that image. (and if your worried... and I can understand that if you've never done this before... then why not make a full system image with W8's own backup utility which will image the full drive for you. Then you have two different images you can use if needed)
    Thanks Mooly, I'll do as you guys advised.. Too good this forum, I'm not going to leave this forum
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  6. #76


    Pembrokeshire, South Wales, UK
    Posts : 653
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/ Windows 8.1 64 bit


    How did this thread go from having a clean computer to being a thread for doing backups and the program to use.

    @ OP David did you look at Event Viewer to see what that said about your computer ?
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  7. #77


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Joan Archer View Post
    How did this thread go from having a clean computer to being a thread for doing backups and the program to use.

    @ OP David did you look at Event Viewer to see what that said about your computer ?
    Sorry , if it's anything not to be done here
    It's all because of the interesting & helpful guys like you... I had no mind leaving this thread without more questions & doubts..
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  8. #78


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post

    Go for it

    At last, I have one more question , this incremental & full back up what's the diff, we could just do a full back up each month & that's all that needed -right, except for those business guys who need to do the backup of the datas every now and then
    One of more or less literary exact words i IT, Full, what you did now, Incremental, just changes made in between backups, Full is much better, you can delete obsolete ones.. Best to do full because if something got in, like malware or something got dysfunctional than backup will be like that too. If you do full, manual backups at the times when you are sure all is right, that's how your backup will be.
    When I was working, I used to make Incremental backups of the server during the day and full backup of data set to run automatically after hours, it was done on tapes so it took couple of hours. Kept all week of backups on first in, first out basis, 7 tapes each day's one re recorded over one from same day but a week ago. None of them left at the same place as server, friday's one I took home and saturday's one went home with boss, rest at a safe in another office. Never lost a bit of data like that.
    OK, thanks for clearing that too..

    Thinking about the patience, tolerance you've to put through all those backups & time for these, only one question left, Were your whole day utilised just for backing up , i know without it you've to start everything from scratch - just curious about the time for all these in between other things to be concentrated while on the job!
    No, no way anybody could afford to have computer down whole day. Incremental were done at lunch time and around 3 o'clock because data was exchanged with main office in Detroit by DSL at 2 o'clock pm and took almost whole hour at those speeds before internet. It was important to keep data synchronized and backed up after that because it contained data from all the plants in USA and Canada and next day would be a business right -off if anything was lost. In the evening and night it took two hours to backup to tape from about 2 GB of SCASI HDDS. (4 of them), that was mid '90s so everything was slow by today's standards and had to act accordingly. Now it takes me about or less than 10 minutes to backup to about 60GB file and don't even have to stop working on the computer. If it was going from SSD to a SSD instead of on slow HDD like now, it would be much faster but it's not a hindrance anyway.
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  9. #79


    India
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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Like your work, though it was testing the patience off the limit
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  10. #80


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Like your work, though it was testing the patience off the limit
    No, I just set everything up, secretaries did the work, I was production manager for a automotive parts plant and chief maintenance for corporation, didn't exactly had time to screw with that stuff but was only one in this plant with computer experience and was impromptu named "That IT guy that likes to play with computers (Network Administrator)" and saved them 100 bucks on hour IT specialist to come and fix network and computers.
    My computer, in my office, in the middle of factory was for controlling production machines and CAD/CAM work. Had it locked with 2 keys and a note to cleaning lady not to wash any part of it. One of them washed and scrubbed my keyboard in the sink once so I was not taking chances.
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