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Anybody else have a good working computer ?

  1. #61


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    To tell you frankly, I would not even partition it now until the backup is made and see how much space it's going to take.
    Thanks for that, I'll go with backing up first

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  2. #62


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    One comment regarding your OEM recovery partition and this is something I found out the hard way although it was no major problem (for me) because I would never have wanted to do a factory restore with all the bloatware and so on. I have a Dell PC and when you restore an image (in my case with Acronis) that overwrites some unique Dell code and means that the recovery partition no longer works. You can create recovery discs to get around that though. Again in my case, I just completely blitzed all the partitions and deleted them all and then did a clean install of W7/W8.1


    Its just something to be aware of and may or may not apply to other PC's.
    OK, so i have to make two backups now, since i don't know what is going to work. Anyway I'll try backing up both disc image & system image.
    Few doubts though:
    1.
    Will restoring the system image several times subsequently, whenever the need comes, with newer system images , would cause any harm to the working of the system & would give rise to any product key activation issue as Mike suggested earlier.?

    2.
    Since I'm having the recovery discs of my factory installed os,
    will the restoring from it cause any problems later on when the need comes,? --
    Assuming at that time, I'm having the system image loaded & I'm working on the system with restored image.

    3.
    After doing a clean install with oem iso and it getting automatically activated,
    later on there comes a point I have to restore from my recovery discs created out-of-box by me, will that work or

    Should i have to do clean installation again or system image restore of the clean installed os?
    Let's start with number 2.
    Recovery disk returns system to factory condition, that's all. Your settings, programs, data etc is gone., clean slate together with all overhead factory installed.
    1. After restoring from any full backup, you get same thing you had when you made backup, no more, no less.
    3. If you do clean install of windows, you get windows only, nothing will be left from previous installation. Installation will still make some partitions, you need a partition for UEFI and windows will make another for it's operation. plus C: partition that's normally used. No use for that factory restore option after that..
    Even after all or some of those operations you can always restore from backup made with backup programs and get whatever you had at the time backup was made.
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  3. #63


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    One comment regarding your OEM recovery partition and this is something I found out the hard way although it was no major problem (for me) because I would never have wanted to do a factory restore with all the bloatware and so on. I have a Dell PC and when you restore an image (in my case with Acronis) that overwrites some unique Dell code and means that the recovery partition no longer works. You can create recovery discs to get around that though. Again in my case, I just completely blitzed all the partitions and deleted them all and then did a clean install of W7/W8.1


    Its just something to be aware of and may or may not apply to other PC's.
    OK, so i have to make two backups now, since i don't know what is going to work. Anyway I'll try backing up both disc image & system image.
    Few doubts though:
    1.
    Will restoring the system image several times subsequently, whenever the need comes, with newer system images , would cause any harm to the working of the system & would give rise to any product key activation issue as Mike suggested earlier.?

    2.
    Since I'm having the recovery discs of my factory installed os,
    will the restoring from it cause any problems later on when the need comes,? --
    Assuming at that time, I'm having the system image loaded & I'm working on the system with restored image.

    3.
    After doing a clean install with oem iso and it getting automatically activated,
    later on there comes a point I have to restore from my recovery discs created out-of-box by me, will that work or

    Should i have to do clean installation again or system image restore of the clean installed os?
    Let's start with number 2.
    Recovery disk returns system to factory condition, that's all. Your settings, programs, data etc is gone., clean slate together with all overhead factory installed.
    1. After restoring from any full backup, you get same thing you had when you made backup, no more, no less.
    3. If you do clean install of windows, you get windows only, nothing will be left from previous installation. Installation will still make some partitions, you need a partition for UEFI and windows will make another for it's operation. plus C: partition that's normally used. No use for that factory restore option after that..
    Even after all or some of those operations you can always restore from backup made with backup programs and get whatever you had at the time backup was made.
    Ok, that clears my ever existential doubts,
    thanks Mike
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  4. #64


    Just keep making backups and keep them at safe place. That just reminded me I'm due for a full backup today or tomorrow since it's all silky smooth now.
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  5. #65


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Now, I have done with backing up . hope everything come up working for me when the sane HDD go haywire

    After AOMEI backing up, full disk image shrunk from 61Gigs to 39Gigs & System image shrunk from 42Gigs to 22Gigs:

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  6. #66


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Just keep making backups and keep them at safe place. That just reminded me I'm due for a full backup today or tomorrow since it's all silky smooth now.
    Go for it

    At last, I have one more question , this incremental & full back up what's the diff, we could just do a full back up each month & that's all that needed -right, except for those business guys who need to do the backup of the datas every now and then
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  7. #67


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Incrementals are small additions to the first full backup. Look at the file sizes here. I start a new sequence off every week, the first is always a full and then the daily ones that follow are incrementals. Try it on yours.
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  8. #68


    India
    Posts : 1,536
    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    Incrementals are small additions to the first full backup. Look at the file sizes here. I start a new sequence off every week, the first is always a full and then the daily ones that follow are incrementals. Try it on yours.
    OK, so how could we select the image from where I have to restore by selecting the latest incremental backup image? - is it selecting only the last backed up incremental image,?
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  9. #69


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Just keep making backups and keep them at safe place. That just reminded me I'm due for a full backup today or tomorrow since it's all silky smooth now.
    Go for it

    At last, I have one more question , this incremental & full back up what's the diff, we could just do a full back up each month & that's all that needed -right, except for those business guys who need to do the backup of the datas every now and then
    One of more or less literary exact words i IT, Full, what you did now, Incremental, just changes made in between backups, Full is much better, you can delete obsolete ones.. Best to do full because if something got in, like malware or something got dysfunctional than backup will be like that too. If you do full, manual backups at the times when you are sure all is right, that's how your backup will be.
    When I was working, I used to make Incremental backups of the server during the day and full backup of data set to run automatically after hours, it was done on tapes so it took couple of hours. Kept all week of backups on first in, first out basis, 7 tapes each day's one re recorded over one from same day but a week ago. None of them left at the same place as server, friday's one I took home and saturday's one went home with boss, rest at a safe in another office. Never lost a bit of data like that.
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  10. #70


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    OK, so how could we select the image from where I have to restore by selecting the latest incremental backup image? - is it selecting only the last backed up incremental image,?
    You can pick any image from the incremental sequence to restore back to. The restore procedure will use the "base" full image as a starting point and then apply all the incrementals in turn up to the one you choose to restore to.
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