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  1. #51


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    OK Mike, I'm going ahead with full disc image backup with aomei.

    I still didn't get the thing about activation issue you explained to me that may arise when going for a image restore in an oem lap, if you could please clear me out?
    No, with OEM windows and your setup there should be no activation issues at all unless you change MB. I, on other hand with "ordinary", (let's call it "store bought") Windows would have to activate them again if I did clean install. With full backup - restore I don't have to do anything else.
    Thanks for making it clear , its so not properly explained anywhere that I could understand

    Thanks for the help guys, David, Mike , Mooley...

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  2. #52


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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Yes, you can partition it any way you like, no data loss in advance with something like my favorite EaseUS Partition Master - Best partition manager software just do yourself a favor and name partitions you have defined now with distinctive names so you don't confuse them while doing it. Name newly made partitions too, takes less guesswork later on.
    Hi there

    EASUS is not very good IMO -- download any Linux distro live CD - OPENSUSE for example and start GPARTED. If GPARTED doesn't exist in your version just install it from the distros package manager. Or download the Stand alone version of GPARTED -- works flawlessly for managing partitions and re-sizes them easily too. If you don't have a DVD / CD then create a bootable USB version - both the Linux live CD downloads and GPARTED have instructions on creating bootable USB devices.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    I'm new here & new to these partitioning, please post a tutorial or guide me through it if you could.
    Where can I get opensuse - gparted? Where can I get distros package manager or standalone version of gparted?
    Is there a reliable link so that you could post it here.

    Do Gparted work in partitioning the EHDD without any hassles?
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  3. #53


    Gparted works just fine but it has to be on another boot media, it's on Linux and if you make a mistake and do it on a wrong HDD it will let you screw up system. With a windows program, running from windows it will not let you do anything to system that can hurt it.
    Here's Gparted and instructions for it. Just remember not to do ANYTHING to your Boot HDD.
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  4. #54


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Gparted works just fine but it has to be on another boot media, it's on Linux and if you make a mistake and do it on a wrong HDD it will let you screw up system. With a windows program, running from windows it will not let you do anything to system that can hurt it.
    Here's Gparted and instructions for it. Just remember not to do ANYTHING to your Boot HDD.
    I'll do the partitioning in the WD 2TB i have, for image back up into that partition.
    Boot media means my c:\ drive isn't it? - No I'll not do that in my internal hdd.

    I didn't get the instructions
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  5. #55


    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Gparted works just fine but it has to be on another boot media, it's on Linux and if you make a mistake and do it on a wrong HDD it will let you screw up system. With a windows program, running from windows it will not let you do anything to system that can hurt it.
    Here's Gparted and instructions for it. Just remember not to do ANYTHING to your Boot HDD.
    I'll do the partitioning in the WD 2TB i have, for image back up into that partition.
    Boot media means my c:\ drive isn't it? - No I'll not do that in my internal hdd.

    I didn't get the instructions
    Ugh, sorry, that's because I forgot the link GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD
    Yes BOOT drive means your physical, inside disk with all the partitions. Do you already have anything on that external drive ? Is it formatted all in one piece and does it show a letter in Disk management or My Computer ?
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  6. #56


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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Gparted works just fine but it has to be on another boot media, it's on Linux and if you make a mistake and do it on a wrong HDD it will let you screw up system. With a windows program, running from windows it will not let you do anything to system that can hurt it.
    Here's Gparted and instructions for it. Just remember not to do ANYTHING to your Boot HDD.
    I'll do the partitioning in the WD 2TB i have, for image back up into that partition.
    Boot media means my c:\ drive isn't it? - No I'll not do that in my internal hdd.

    I didn't get the instructions
    Ugh, sorry, that's because I forgot the link GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD
    Yes BOOT drive means your physical, inside disk with all the partitions. Do you already have anything on that external drive ? Is it formatted all in one piece and does it show a letter in Disk management or My Computer ?
    Yes, I have my files, folders, wd backups. I have not done anything since I got it, just backing up through WD app & copying some others files in addition.

    Any advice on partition size I have to choose?

    Here is the screenshot of

    Disk management:
    Click image for larger version


    My External HDD:
    Click image for larger version
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  7. #57


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    One comment regarding your OEM recovery partition and this is something I found out the hard way although it was no major problem (for me) because I would never have wanted to do a factory restore with all the bloatware and so on. I have a Dell PC and when you restore an image (in my case with Acronis) that overwrites some unique Dell code and means that the recovery partition no longer works. You can create recovery discs to get around that though. Again in my case, I just completely blitzed all the partitions and deleted them all and then did a clean install of W7/W8.1


    Its just something to be aware of and may or may not apply to other PC's.
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  8. #58


    To tell you frankly, I would not even partition it now until the backup is made and see how much space it's going to take.
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  9. #59


    India
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    Win 8.1 Update x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    One comment regarding your OEM recovery partition and this is something I found out the hard way although it was no major problem (for me) because I would never have wanted to do a factory restore with all the bloatware and so on. I have a Dell PC and when you restore an image (in my case with Acronis) that overwrites some unique Dell code and means that the recovery partition no longer works. You can create recovery discs to get around that though. Again in my case, I just completely blitzed all the partitions and deleted them all and then did a clean install of W7/W8.1


    Its just something to be aware of and may or may not apply to other PC's.
    OK, so i have to make two backups now, since i don't know what is going to work. Anyway I'll try backing up both disc image & system image.
    Few doubts though:
    1.
    Will restoring the system image several times subsequently, whenever the need comes, with newer system images , would cause any harm to the working of the system & would give rise to any product key activation issue as Mike suggested earlier.?

    2.
    Since I'm having the recovery discs of my factory installed os,
    will the restoring from it cause any problems later on when the need comes,? --
    Assuming at that time, I'm having the system image loaded & I'm working on the system with restored image.

    3.
    After doing a clean install with oem iso and it getting automatically activated,
    later on there comes a point I have to restore from my recovery discs created out-of-box by me, will that work or

    Should i have to do clean installation again or system image restore of the clean installed os?
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  10. #60


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    One comment regarding your OEM recovery partition and this is something I found out the hard way although it was no major problem (for me) because I would never have wanted to do a factory restore with all the bloatware and so on. I have a Dell PC and when you restore an image (in my case with Acronis) that overwrites some unique Dell code and means that the recovery partition no longer works. You can create recovery discs to get around that though. Again in my case, I just completely blitzed all the partitions and deleted them all and then did a clean install of W7/W8.1


    Its just something to be aware of and may or may not apply to other PC's.
    The "secret" is to backup WHOLE DISK, all the partitions, whole kitten caboodle, not only system, that way you get everything back as it was after such restoration. Restoring using system restore, with system restore disk is different than restoring whole disk using Acronis or Macrium reflect or other programs like that. Using some "live boot disk" with backup program to backup everything might not even care what OS is there, just backup and restore whatever there was on disk.
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