windows 8.1 slows down over time

emko

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I cant figure this one out some how over time windows 8.1 will start to slow down for example adobe lightroom takes about 2 seconds to open, i don't know how long but after some time it will take like 20 seconds or more and while loading it just does not look correct like black boxes that take time to get filled in. This not only impacts loading of applications but the application its self becomes very slow. Task manager shows minimal CPU usage same with ram its not all in use. Grabing the window and resizing it looks horrible things flash in and out of place and areas take few seconds to get filled back in.Restarting the system fixes this and i found the restarting explorer.exe instantly brings back the performance but i am getting annoyed doing this every time. explorer.exe uses less then 4% cpu and around 60mb of ram at the time of the performance issues and i don't understand how restarting it brings back performance or how it affects performance in the first place when it does not use much cpu in the first place.

CPU i7 2600k OC to 4.5ghz i did test out just running at stock same problem
Motherboard is P8P67 WS REVOLUTION
RAM 24gb
GPU GTX 570


does anyone have a idea whats going on i am getting so annoyed i think i will go back to windows 8 or even get/learn to use a MAC i really need this get fixed as i use this PC for work.

Thanks
 

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I think the speed of most computers deteriate over time anyway. I usually just reset mine when the get really slow.
 

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What type is your hard drive or ssd? sounds like its not properly maintained. causing heavy fragmentation if its a hdd. the black boxes are when it's loading a picture or like the program it self and do you see the black boxes in other programs that could be your gpu vram going. also if your OC is not set right it can actually slow performance, do you have issues if you run something like occt for a while(will generate a lot of heat).
 

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What type is your hard drive or ssd? sounds like its not properly maintained. causing heavy fragmentation if its a hdd. the black boxes are when it's loading a picture or like the program it self and do you see the black boxes in other programs that could be your gpu vram going. also if your OC is not set right it can actually slow performance, do you have issues if you run something like occt for a while(will generate a lot of heat).

Its a SSD and fragmentation wouldn't do this and how would fragmentation be fixed by restarting explorer.exe? The OC is not the issue as i have tested it with default CPU speed. The black boxes are where the programs panels are so it looks like the program is running so slow that i can see the boxes and takes time for the program to fill in the panel.
 

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I don't know how I missed about 2/3 your opening post sorry. You should set up logging resource manager and see if will show you what goes on when the drop occurs.

Edit see what process explorer says explorer is using Process Explorer
 

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    ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
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    32GB(4x8GB) DDR3 Team Xtreem 2666 @ 2400 CL10 10-12-12-31
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    I also own a Lenovo Y510p, and Yoga 2 Pro
I don't know how I missed about 2/3 your opening post sorry. You should set up logging resource manager and see if will show you what goes on when the drop occurs.

Edit see what process explorer says explorer is using Process Explorer

oh no no problem , what should i be looking for though? explorer.exe uses same CPU and RAM when the performance is good and bad. How can a computer performance go bad if the CPU usage shows less then %5 used?
 

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It doesn't show a tree you can expand for explorer.Exe? Also when it happens in resource manager does it show under disk a large amount of read or writes continually for some process or service? I'm on my phone, later I can post screens if you need.
 

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    32GB(4x8GB) DDR3 Team Xtreem 2666 @ 2400 CL10 10-12-12-31
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    2x MSI GTX 780 Twin Frozr OC 3GB
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    ASUS Xonar Essence STX
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    ASUS PB278Q, HP 2311xi, UN46F7100AFXZA
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    256GB 840 PRO SSD
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It doesn't show a tree you can expand for explorer.Exe? Also when it happens in resource manager does it show under disk a large amount of read or writes continually for some process or service? I'm on my phone, later I can post screens if you need.

I just turned on the PC so i have yet to get to the performance issues i did try this program before and couldn't figure out what to look for.

currently it shows in explorer.exe tree procexp.exe procexp64.exe
 

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procep is the process explorer program your looking at it with so that's normal. try to look at this area when it happens.
 

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procep is the process explorer program your looking at it with so that's normal. try to look at this area when it happens.

okay performance is slowing down its not that bad yet but i still cant see whats going on here is a screen shot of some of the stuff you wanted me to look at. Is page faults at 19million bad? or is that normal.
 

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yeah that seems high here is mine with around 5 days of uptime, as i put in my pic are you using a spyder color calibrator as shown in your explorer.exe? it might be causing a memory leak or something. also since its under virtual memory it might be your page file is messed up too. what does it show for that under virtual memory as well?

EDIT: if it's an SSD then you should have it set like mine to have no page file if you have at least 12GB of ram, if you have less then still set it on another hdd and not on your SSD, it will extend its life.
 

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yeah that seems high here is mine with around 5 days of uptime, as i put in my pic are you using a spyder color calibrator as shown in your explorer.exe? it might be causing a memory leak or something. also since its under virtual memory it might be your page file is messed up too. what does it show for that under virtual memory as well?

EDIT: if it's an SSD then you should have it set like mine to have no page file if you have at least 12GB of ram, if you have less then still set it on another hdd and not on your SSD, it will extend its life.

Page fault is already at 56million and keeps going up time is just 1 day and 5 hours, spyder was not installed before and i had the same issue. My virtual memory is set

C:\ none = SSD
D:\ managed it set it to 24gb

why did you set yours to none to all? i will try that.
 

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cause you basically don't need one above 12 GB unless your are like rendering and using all of it. yeah try without it.
 

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cause you basically don't need one above 12 GB unless your are like rendering and using all of it. yeah try without it.

well i just rebooted as it said i had to to set the new setting and the page faults are already at 300k
 

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hmm, i just rebooted also for windows updates and mines at 400k so i don't think its a good representation of the issue. you might have a funky stick of ram and when it hits that address it goes all slow but it also would be odd since you can fix it by restarting explorer.exe. what happens if you take out all but one stick of the ram then use the pc for a while and see if it gets slow.
 

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    ASUS PB278Q, HP 2311xi, UN46F7100AFXZA
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    256GB 840 PRO SSD
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hmm, i just rebooted also for windows updates and mines at 400k so i don't think its a good representation of the issue. you might have a funky stick of ram and when it hits that address it goes all slow but it also would be odd since you can fix it by restarting explorer.exe. what happens if you take out all but one stick of the ram then use the pc for a while and see if it gets slow.

Ya i will try that its just weird after around 8hours it starts to get slow nothing shows lots of usage like ram/hdd/cpu even network so i don't understand it but i will try that. Another thing is Windows 8 and even 7 ran perfect its just this update that's when it started.
 

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it started when you updated to 8.1?
 

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    256GB 840 PRO SSD
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    3TB EXT Drive (Secure Backups)
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    Corsair AX760
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    NZXT White Switch 810
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Your getting the update from the windows store right?
 

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    ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    Memory
    32GB(4x8GB) DDR3 Team Xtreem 2666 @ 2400 CL10 10-12-12-31
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    2x MSI GTX 780 Twin Frozr OC 3GB
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar Essence STX
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    ASUS PB278Q, HP 2311xi, UN46F7100AFXZA
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440p, 2x1080p
    Hard Drives
    256GB 840 PRO SSD
    10TB RAID 0 Array (Movies, Steam)
    6TB RAID 1 Array (Backups, Documents)
    3TB EXT Drive (Secure Backups)
    PSU
    Corsair AX760
    Case
    NZXT White Switch 810
    Cooling
    Block: XSPC Raystorm, RES/Pump: XSPC Bay res W/D5 Vario, RAD: XSPC RX360, 6xNF-F12's
    Keyboard
    Rosewill RK-9000 with MX Blue switches Logitech G15 Rev 2 (gutted for LCD)
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    Logitech G400
    Browser
    Chrome
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    I also own a Lenovo Y510p, and Yoga 2 Pro
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